sorry dagmarpiano, I couldnt avoid that, but I am always kidding in my normal life :) (well, I use to respond insults with jokes). In my real thought, I dont have nothing against old or new stuff. I am not old but not young, but I think the main thing is what I have reflected through the years... I now have a very clear picture about what is art for me, after study a lot of artistic manifestations and learn from great artist (painters, etc). Sometimes, people want to feel they are superior to others, so use music, art, science, dress, etc., to increase their self esteem (most of them belong to a social group like hip hopers, etc). When they surpass that step in their lifes, they realise that they become a bit "ubermensch", with their own convictions and own way of thinking, not influenced for the rest. That is why some artists after composing complex stuff, become to be interested in simple stuff, they finally understand that hidden taste that they never seen before. But this happens only when people becomes mature internally (not only age). I dont say that every person should listen folk or popular or simple music, i am not saying that all of them will end like that, other could start to listen more complex music, I just say that you notice something strange when the argument becomes insult, when you see signatures demostrating superiority, arrogancy, etc... you start to suspect that something is wrong here (sorry my English again, it is a nightmare to me to write thoughts in other language). About the generational thing, IMO you are correct, this is similar... I think the Zimmer`s fans will have the same discussions with the future music´s fans. Of course, technique would not be the argument, but maybe "sonority" "ideas" "expression" "too much noise" too much electronic sounds", etc...