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  • Price for MIR

    HI VSL, when would you think we'll be able to have an idea of MIR prices? We need to start budgeting.


  • Hi Hose,

    Thanks for your interest! The Vienna MIR Download version will be available for around 800,- Euro. This includes all five halls of the Vienna Konzerthaus, and maybe one or the other surprise. Additional venues will be available later, but the prices for these IR-sets are not fixed yet.

    The boxed Vienna MIR Premium / Pro / [whatever it will be called then ;-) ...] will cost around 1.500,- Euro and is planned to be ready next winter. This version will allow for the inclusion of external audio-signals and 3rd-party virtual instruments.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Will there be an upgrade path to MIR Pro/Premium if you purchase the download version of MIR now?


  • Of course!


  • Will VSL users have a discount ?


  • I don't think so. Vienna MIR Downlad will work only with Vienna Instruments for now, so all customers would get a discount ;-D

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    I don't think so. Vienna MIR Downlad will work only with Vienna Instruments for now, so all customers would get a discount ;-D

    I would have thought that the biggest part of the budget was the PC needed to run it. [:)]

    BTW, has MIR been tested with the new Mac Pros running XP64? I'm curious to know if the performance is better than the current i7 quads.

    DG


  • By the way, I would like to ask Dietz or someone at VSL's technical team, regarding the performance of the i7 machine, the one used at Namm to host MIR? I believe Dietz mentioned that it was an i7 965, with 12GB of ram. Could someone please, give some estimate of how much ram does one hall consumes, and perhaps how much CPU power was being used? etc.. thanks


  • Thanks for your interest, Hose!

    The numbers from the NAMM-show are not valid for the final product, as the engine has undergone yet another optimization process in regard of RAM usage. Apart from that, all sets of Multi Impulse Responses differ a lot in size, depedant on the length of the reverb in the hall (up to 10 seconds), and the number of individual stage positions we recorded (between 25 and 40). - 12 GB of RAM seem to be a reasonable size, though, especially when using the Vienna Instruments's RAM Optimization feature.

    CPU consumption, OTOH, relies mostly on the number of instruments actually playing on stage, the chosen output format, and the global latency settings. The i7 I used for the NAMM and Musikmesse presentations showed an average of 50 to 60 % of CPU-power for "Also sprach Zarathustra", with about 25 individual Vienna Instruments playing at the same time during the final chord - in 5-channel surround, at a latency of 2048 samples. The same piece should put less than half the load on the CPU in stereo. Very low latency settings will tax the CPU disproportionately high; we got reasonable results with 256 samples with the RME HDSP-audio system we used, but not with big arrangements.

    ... all these numbers may be subject to change without prior notice, of course! ;-)

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks for your reply. Right now I already use two machines to host VEs only, and other machines for other plugins. Therefore, I wish that maybe MIR will be able to run on a seperate machine by itelf, and just like VE3, it will be able to stream all the audio transfers through network. I think this will give us the abilty to have a large orchestral template under our finger tips, and then use ram optimization where neccessary only, instead of stressing one machine to do all the work, and having to use ram optimization more frequently. Thanks Damian.


  • I completely understand your whishes - but the first version of Vienna MIR will be a "closed" system, sorry to say so. Our developers will concentrate on the issue of including signals from the "outside" for MIR Premium Edition.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Yes, yes ofcourse! I did not assume that a certain feature like this will be available for the download version. I just said so because, since the Premium Edition will be able to host 3rd party plugins, and seems to have several other exclusive features, I thought it would be great to have this capability aswell. Many thanks:)


  • So If I may ask .. What's the hang up with a Download version for Mac OS X? I understand the DVD version with have a Mac version, but why not the download.


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    @hetoreyn said:

    So If I may ask .. What's the hang up with a Download version for Mac OS X? I understand the DVD version with have a Mac version, but why not the download.

    Two reasons:

    1. Concentrating our limited development forces on the task at hand - finally releasing a first version of Vienna MIR. But mainly:
    2. Waiting for a full-fledged 64-bit Mac OS.

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hello Dietz

    >2. Waiting for a full-fledged 64-bit Mac OS

    I do not understand this, Native Instrument has now THE Kontakt 64 bit MAC OS version on public beta

    Best

    Cyril


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" - 1 x 27" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D Dolby Atmos --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  •  well, VSL and NI are two seperate companies ... though you have seen VI/VE versions labeled as public beta at VSL from time to time this is not to become a rule ...

    64bit VI/VE versions are on the schedule (and maybe it will be decided to publish a not 100% perfect version as public beta) but for MIR there isn't even a public beta available for windows ;-) so lets do things step by step ... and not cluck too much about unlayed eggs.

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  •  MIR is recommended for i7 processors if I recall. Is that also the case with the DL version or?


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    @Christian Marcussen said:

     MIR is recommended for i7 processors if I recall. Is that also the case with the DL version or?

    Yes.

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  •  It seem allot of work went into  making the MIR. I know you already have a short video on the VSL site. But i hope you guys documented the process of the good and bad of creating the MIR. Maybe with the DVD version have a short documentary about it creation. Almost like getting a golden ticket to Willie Wonka factory.   Because the way it sounds with allot of amazing studios and Halls closing this is going to be a big event when it comes out.

    Just a thought.


  • hi vsl team,

    is there any news concerning a release date for the MIR (the convolution reverb) really made me even more curious!