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  • H
    H

    Thanks for your reply. Right now I already use two machines to host VEs only, and other machines for other plugins. Therefore, I wish that maybe MIR will be able to run on a seperate machine by itelf, and just like VE3, it will be able to stream all the audio transfers through network. I think this will give us the abilty to have a large orchestral template under our finger tips, and then use ram optimization where neccessary only, instead of stressing one machine to do all the work, and having to use ram optimization more frequently. Thanks Damian.
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    I completely understand your whishes - but the first version of Vienna MIR will be a "closed" system, sorry to say so. Our developers will concentrate on the issue of including signals from the "outside" for MIR Premium Edition.

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • H
    H

    Yes, yes ofcourse! I did not assume that a certain feature like this will be available for the download version. I just said so because, since the Premium Edition will be able to host 3rd party plugins, and seems to have several other exclusive features, I thought it would be great to have this capability aswell. Many thanks:)
  • H
    H

    So If I may ask .. What's the hang up with a Download version for Mac OS X? I understand the DVD version with have a Mac version, but why not the download.
  • DietzD
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    DietzD
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    @hetoreyn said:

    So If I may ask .. What's the hang up with a Download version for Mac OS X? I understand the DVD version with have a Mac version, but why not the download.

    Two reasons:

    1. Concentrating our limited development forces on the task at hand - finally releasing a first version of Vienna MIR. But mainly:
    2. Waiting for a full-fledged 64-bit Mac OS.
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Hello Dietz

    >2. Waiting for a full-fledged 64-bit Mac OS

    I do not understand this, Native Instrument has now THE Kontakt 64 bit MAC OS version on public beta

    Best

    Cyril
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

     well, VSL and NI are two seperate companies ... though you have seen VI/VE versions labeled as public beta at VSL from time to time this is not to become a rule ...

    64bit VI/VE versions are on the schedule (and maybe it will be decided to publish a not 100% perfect version as public beta) but for MIR there isn't even a public beta available for windows ;-) so lets do things step by step ... and not cluck too much about unlayed eggs.

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • C
    C

     MIR is recommended for i7 processors if I recall. Is that also the case with the DL version or?
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
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    @Christian Marcussen said:

     MIR is recommended for i7 processors if I recall. Is that also the case with the DL version or?

    Yes.
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • C
    C

     It seem allot of work went into  making the MIR. I know you already have a short video on the VSL site. But i hope you guys documented the process of the good and bad of creating the MIR. Maybe with the DVD version have a short documentary about it creation. Almost like getting a golden ticket to Willie Wonka factory.   Because the way it sounds with allot of amazing studios and Halls closing this is going to be a big event when it comes out.

    Just a thought.

  • P
    P

    hi vsl team,

    is there any news concerning a release date for the MIR (the convolution reverb) really made me even more curious!
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Thanks for your interest, Patrik.

    Actually Vienna MIR Downloadable is ready. We are giving it a few extra testing-cycles and polishing touches, though. The offcial release is only a few weeks ahead, unless the beta-testers encounter a real show-stopper.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • B
    B

     If MIR sits inside the Vienna Ensemble (and it does, yes?), then why do both MIR and VE need 3rd party vst support?

    Please excuse my ignorance :)
  • C
    C

    My understanding from reading the forums is that MIR initial release does not sit inside VE3.  In it's first release MIR is not setup for audio over ethernet.  I am sure they will implement a network version in the future (as they said they are looking into it).  But the first release you will need a machine with a dedicated audio interface to connect to your sequencer.  So if you are running a dedicated VE3 machine now and a seperate DAW machine you will need to get another audio interface for whatever machine you run MIR.

    Maestro2be
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

     just to have that added: MIR can for sure not be run on *whatever machine* ... we have tested it on an i7 965 XE (3.2 GHz) with 12 GB memory ... i would assume an i7 920 (2.66 GHz) or 940 (2.93 GHz) would do the job also pretty well since speed of memory bus is the most important factor.

    btw: the systems have hyperthreading enabled (4 real and 4 virtual processors) since this setting allows better load balancing for the calculation units, also the 8MB L3 cache seems to help a lot ...

     

    interestingly an 8 core XEON 3.2 GHz i5400 board did not deliver a performance even close to the i7 ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • C
    C

    Thanks for interjecting Christian.  All I meant by "whatever machine" was the machine he decides to run MIR on.  Whether or not his machines make the requirements of being able to run MIR is completely seperate from, does it run over a network or run within VE3.  Obviously "whatever machine" he decides need not only meet some super hardware requirements, but also have a dedicated audio interface since it is not networkable.

    Maestro2be
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

     i've been assuming you have been aware of that ... i thought it wouldn't hurt to write some details about it though ;-)

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • D
    D
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    @cm said:

    interestingly an 8 core XEON 3.2 GHz i5400 board did not deliver a performance even close to the i7 ...

    christian

    I'd be interested to know by how much 2 x X5560 2.8GHz chips would trounce the current i7 PCs. The price is still a little bit hefty (although less than half the price of the slower Mac Pro....!), but I expect the price to come down over the next few months, and even more so when the 6 (and 8) core chips are released (allegedly) at the end of this year.
    DG
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
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    @DG said:

    I'd be interested to know by how much 2 x X5560 2.8GHz chips would trounce the current i7 PCs
     

    me too 😉 unfortunately i can't get the needed memory modules (4 GB FB ECC) so far ...

    also the assortment of motherboards is limited here ... more or less one could choode between intel S5520 or supermicro X8DAi

    the only useful processor i could get currently is the 5550 (2.66 GHz) but i'd like to test the 5580 (though really expensive) because i suspect the memory bus to be bottleneck and not the processor ...

    christian

     

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • B
    B

     I forsee no problems running it on my Pentium 4 / 3 gigs Ram.