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@julian said:
the speed limitation is more often how quick the server can stream the data
yeah, so if every user could gather real 30 Mbit we would need to restrict Vienna Imperial download purchases to 3 every 120 minutes to not affect the regular traffic 😉 ... that's ok ...
christian
@julian said:
the speed limitation is more often how quick the server can stream the data
yeah, so if every user could gather real 30 Mbit we would need to restrict Vienna Imperial download purchases to 3 every 120 minutes to not affect the regular traffic 😉 ... that's ok ...
christian
mmmn 13,000 plus a year not bad for the profit margins!!
Julian
Our developement team is just finalizing our upcoming Vienna Imperial.
Everybody here in Vienna who had the chance to play with our new piano was extremly impressed.
So I'd like to share a small live performed demo by Christian Kardeis.
http://vsl.co.at/users/111/1st_demo_ViennaImperial.mp3
Here you also have screenshots of our Vienna Imperial interface,
So if this is feasible to market, how about one special string lib such as leg violins with 100 velocities?
The reason why the Vienna Imperial is possible is, iirc, that there exists a piano that can be actuated by a computer with very high precision, otherwise it would not be possible to record 100 distinguished layers. To do this with a violin, you have to find a way to achieve something similar. I never heard of a computer actuated violin...
Regarding the Demo: really nice dynamics :) Is there soft pedal involved?
I have some questions now that the Imperial finalizes:
@arne said:
To do this with a violin, you have to find a way to achieve something similar.
I'm sure that won't be long. 
I think that it won't be possible to do with a violin until sample modelling improves a great deal. The Garritan Strad was a good idea, but sounded dreadful.
The other thing to remember is that in order to "play" such an instrument well you not only have to be a good performer, but you also need to understand a lot about why professional players sound the way they do. Even with our current sample libraries, there are far too many things that either can't be done, or take for ever and a day to make sound half bad. Unless people know how and why things are played the way they are in the real world, the best sampled or modelled instruments in the world will still sound lame in comparison with the real thing.
DG
@arne said:
To do this with a violin, you have to find a way to achieve something similar.
I'm sure that won't be long.
I think that it won't be possible to do with a violin until sample modelling improves a great deal. The Garritan Strad was a good idea, but sounded dreadful.
The other thing to remember is that in order to "play" such an instrument well you not only have to be a good performer, but you also need to understand a lot about why professional players sound the way they do. Even with our current sample libraries, there are far too many things that either can't be done, or take for ever and a day to make sound half bad. Unless people know how and why things are played the way they are in the real world, the best sampled or modelled instruments in the world will still sound lame in comparison with the real thing.
DG
I know nothing about the technicality of these things, you've got me there. But what I've noticed over the years in just about any field, people often said: "This can't be done" or "it will take a long, long time before this can be done" and explain technically why. And then before not too long someone has thought of a new way of doing this and that changes everything and before you know it it's being marketed. So that was basically my point.
I know nothing about the technicality of these things, you've got me there. But what I've noticed over the years in just about any field, people often said: "This can't be done" or "it will take a long, long time before this can be done" and explain technically why. And then before not too long someone has thought of a new way of doing this and that changes everything and before you know it it's being marketed. So that was basically my point.
Guy, I certainly agree with you in principal. I don't doubt that there will be a very good way to do all this stuff. What I doubt is the ability of many people to get good results. You are a very good performer, so you know how difficult it is for many people to play well on the piano. However, piano rolls have been around for ages, so it is not the reproduction that is the problem, it's the performance. Now, assuming that all the technological difficulties have been solved with an instrument like the violin, it still requires someone with very good performance chops to get a good result.
Obviously with many, many automatic features, where you will be banned from doing certain things, it could be made easier. Also a high latency "look ahead" mode (a bit like Synful) could help things even more, but in the end it comes down to knowledge and performance chops. It's a bit like learning to orchestrate. It's all very easy as long as you don't have live players. However, as soon as people have to play your stuff there are many more considerations to take into account, and this takes years of training, practice and experience, and I know that I don't have to tell you this...!
DG
@DG said:
I don't doubt that there will be a very good way to do all this stuff. What I doubt is the ability of many people to get good results.
as a friend of mine once put it: anybody can buy microsoft word, but that does not make them a poet. 😊
@DG said:
I don't doubt that there will be a very good way to do all this stuff. What I doubt is the ability of many people to get good results.
as a friend of mine once put it: anybody can buy microsoft word, but that does not make them a poet. 😊
I wish I had been so succinct. [:$]
DG
@Football said:
Wow, very exciting. Is this demo with any additional reverb? Also, which position is it (close, player or distant)?
Any additional EQ used on this piece?
Hi,
This is just the Imperial plugin, nothing else. The internal Reverb and a little filtering was used on this, well, first improvisation more than real demo.
best
christianK
