Nothing special, really...

[img]http://www.mikeverta.com/Posts/Strings_Verb.png[/img]

I can post them, but you have to understand that my room and settings choices are dependent upon a lot of things, most importantly the fact that I use different libraries, with different ambiences inherently in the recordings.  I can't use the same room on everything, because not every instrument comes out of the giga with the same default "air" around it; they're not pure, dry samples. I have to compensate for each library's natural quality in various ways to put them all in the same space. So using my settings will not replicate my sound unless you happen to choose the identical instruments, which is highly unlikely, especially given how many blends and custom patches I use.

_Mike

Here, I just banged on each section of the orchestra, and let each one tail out so you can hear the room/reverb/placement if you want to try and match it.

[url=http://www.mikeverta.com/Posts/Orchestra_Test.mp3]Orchestra Test[/url]

_Mike

Incredible work. The brass is especially great. Didn't you post "Ewok Battle" a while back? 

Can you talk about how you get the runs using SI string samples? I've never been able to get that. Are you just using the staccatos? 

Thanks for the mix tips, you have a very nice soundscape there. 

I posted the Ewok Battle a while, while, while ago, yes.  I was extremely unhappy with the sound I was getting, and set about starting over after that.

For runs, I never use staccatos, I use legato violins (3 layers with MW control, AA) and sometimes layered with Legato AA R.

They're usually carefully measured runs, so I'll often play them in in step mode.  

Thanks for the kind words!

_Mike

Sounds Great !!!

All I say is wow!!! What a great soundscape.

Thanks for all the insight and explanation.

Actually you made me review my template again!! ;)

I use a custom patch, which was just a tweak of the default, actually.  It's a 3-second reverb with some of the lows and low-mids rolled back so it doesn't get muddy.  I kill the pre-delay, because that just adds more "room" and I've already got that covered.  This reverb is just for the "wet."  There are differing levels of send to the master verb per section via an aux bus.

Thanks for the kind words, guys.  I'm truly glad you enjoy the work!

_Mike

Great thread and awesome realism on this mock-up Mike.   SvK - I have horsed around with this using my Wizoo w2 (HDIR Concert) ir on a seperate FX bus.   I seem to get pretty good results using about a 50-60 predelay to get out of the way of the beautiful Todd AO room ( I know you use as well).

I haven't yet worked on the lows and mid-lows on the w2 'master overall verb' but I think it a good idea and would be applicable on most material.   My gut is saying the 225-300 range is going to need some cut.  I'll try to report back what works here.

Rob 

Mike and SvK - I just ran an experiment with the piece I wrote for the VSL brass library last year - using this concept of a 'master verb' over the AV6 Todd AO room.   I must say I really like it.   I also used the 'wide' mics and think that gives some nice space around the samples.

BTW - I rolled off the low and mids on the 'master bus' verb and it reduces the mud quite a bit.  This of course will be material dependent but I am liking the results.   I think I could reduce these freqs and tad more on the master verb and still be good - perhaps better.   There is plenty of 'warmth' coming from the Todd AO buses. 

What do you think?

http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Americana/Journey%20to%20Greatness%20(Joseph's%20Theme)_wide%20mics.mp3

Rob 

Hi Tanuj,

I know what you mean about Todd AO and the big busy stuff.   Most of what I have been doing of late has been small, romantic, etc. and I couldn't ask for a better sound.   Having said that I still feel - with some tweaking and balance of ER and tail, eq - that we can get there with it on the big stuff.

Do a search here for SvK's approach to using AV6 (seperating ER and Tail on seperate busses - for flexibility and control).   I think it is the way to go.

I took an hour and put together this little diddy - made it busy (and rather lame [:P])- to show how with only sliding down the tail busses a tad and overall Wizoo verb slider much more (everything inlcuding eq being the same) - I get close to a final mix  (these are the same exact IR and settings as the piece above).  Of course from here careful attention to Eq, etc. will be key.  I have purpose 'layered in' more on each sussequent phrase to hear the build up of notes has on the overall mix.

Again look for Savkampen's post on setting up AV - Good luck.  This business of mixing is for sure a lifetime pursuit.   I have really appreciated the kind folks on this board that have been so open to sharing their knowledge and experience.

http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Misc/Skitzoid%20strut.mp3

Maybe it would be a good idea to move experiments to another thread so your tests don't get lost in this discussion...

_Mike

Probably right Mike - Thanks again for starting this discussion.

All the best,

@mverta said:

Maybe it would be a good idea to move experiments to another thread so your tests don't get lost in this discussion...

 

_Mike

Also couldn't agree more with Paul and Hetoryn (sorry again Mike for the posting of music[:$]).   My day is already filled with trying to get into the heads of various directors and THEN coming up with something they don't laugh at when heard.   I just don't want to spend so much time fussing with making samples 'sit' right.   One more vote for MIR!

Rob