Herb, an air sample or "quiet waiting musicians" would be nice to have before the MIR. (I won't buy the MIR just for the Breath samples [[;)]] )
The sound of the pages a musician turns is a good idea too…

@Laurent said:

The sound of the pages a musician turns is a good idea too…

Funny, but I've spent hours removing these things from session recordings. Strange how things change depending on circumstances [:D]

DG

@Plowman said:

... "Air." Absolutely. In post, when you're dealing with a visual in a large room (and certainly outdoors), sound engineers add "air" all the time...

You need only go to a good recording of Renaissance choral music (say Tallis' "Spem in Alium habui") to witness a most tangible sense of air and space...

"There's a dedicated switch labeled "Roomtone" in the master-section to add a loop of about five minutes silence, recorded around 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning."

And Level 2 will have Noon, 3 P.M. and quarter to nine.

Sorry for the novice-sounding question, but IR/MIR...this stands for what??? (I could guess, trying to make myself sound like I DO have a brain, but I won't risk being wrong and sounding like an even bigger moron).

Josh

@Plowman said:

"There's a dedicated switch labeled "Roomtone" in the master-section to add a loop of about five minutes silence, recorded around 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning."

And Level 2 will have Noon, 3 P.M. and quarter to nine.

... this is when the cleaning ladies do their job in the lobby. Cool sound! [:D]

@JJRoach said:

Sorry for the novice-sounding question, but IR/MIR...this stands for what??? (I could guess, trying to make myself sound like I DO have a brain, but I won't risk being wrong and sounding like an even bigger moron).

Josh

IR is Impulse Response

[URL=http://www.vsl.co.at/en-us/65/71/170.vsl]MIR[/URL]

DG

@JJRoach said:

Sorry for the novice-sounding question, but IR/MIR...this stands for what??? (I could guess, trying to make myself sound like I DO have a brain, but I won't risk being wrong and sounding like an even bigger moron).

Josh

"Multi Impulse Response" (... comparable to a multi-sample of an instrument, this can be considered the next level of sampling the acoustics of real rooms).

-> http://vsl.co.at/en-us/65/71/170.vsl

HTH,

[:D] DG was faster!

@Dietz said:

[:D] DG was faster!

I'm just avoiding work, as usual......

DG

Can we also have some Glenn Gould-like grunting and humming along with the tune... [[:|]]

May have to be a legato patch...

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The only problem I foresee with 'audience or orchestra present' ambiences is that unless you have quite a range to choose from they become very recognisable. Any rustle or sound that's even slightly discernable becomes a musical cue and you know exactly where the next one will be. They might fool the average punter for a time but for musician's and composers they will soon become more of a giveaway than the instrument samples themselves.

thanks guys...I pretty much figured multi impulse response, but just wanted to make sure...
maybe can all contribute to this library by recording ourselves doing some heavy breathing and shuffling our feet... ; ) ...

but the point of having room sound is definitely a good one...they use room noise for films when they recreate an environment and do ADR and all that stuff, and I think the result works quite well.

Josh

you can try Downloading any John Cage's "4'33" performance and add to your mix ;)

if you find a big orchestra "performing" this piece it should work even better!