whats with the language RK?

Good point on the dynamics. Does anyone else here think that MIDI 0-127 is far too limited dynamic range for playing? We should have 8 times that resolution. Is it just me?

On closer inspection, in fact, the Vienna VI means that INSTEAD of spending $10,000 on a new computer with 16 gigs of ram and waiting for logic to be able to address it, I can buy the VI, get all the sounds, and my EXISTING computer, will in fact be fully utilised, saving me money, and in fact it's like having a new machine (I say this especially if you have a G5 with more than 3 gigs RAM). Well, if you look at it that way, it's completely logical to spend your money on the sounds than a new computer, and in taht instance, VSL deserves our "hard earned cash". But I'm still not gonna buy until 07 ! when I have the surplus funds no more credit card joy rides for me ! I know I know, famous last words....

O.K., Thor - you give up? I gave up a long time ago. You are either (1) psychotic and institutionalized or (2) joking.

(BTW Herb saying "which negative posts?" encouraged me. I should never be encouraged.)

Recording an entire orchestra?

NOBODY USES AN ENTIRE ORCHESTRA AT ONCE!

You use one instrument, added to another. And they each have varying amounts of reverb or convolution. The room tone they were recorded with disappears if used in a mix with convolution. This is total crap, to say that only the room tone originally recorded with the samples is useable. It is simply bullshit. And worse, it is worthless, because no one can use this crap you're talking about. What good does saying this do? People add reverb to samples every f**king day. So what the hell is your point? That EWQL is superior because they recorded the reverb at the time? It isn't. It is less useable because they did that. Do you understand this principle? I don't think you do.

What you are arguing from - the base you are operating on - is bullshit. You cannot use samples, do recordings, make CDs, make soundtracks, do anything related to sound and music, based upon what you are saying.

Other than that, it's a great concept.

have a nice day! See? I'm trying to be nice and positive. Gets a bit difficult here. When people are deliberately as dysfunctional as possible...
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Mpower
Didn't mean anything by it, hope I didn't offend you. Just addressing back a few strings. I like to think, I still got it. every once in a while.

Sincerely

William...sorry, but that post is simply retarded. Seriously.
If I were you I would put the following phrase in a frame and hang it up over my bed:

"Ignorance is bliss" [:D]

therefore its not worth my time to respond in detail to your insulting nonsense....

[H]

Good luck,

T

William
I'm feeling good today. Even though it has nothing to do with anything. I'll take
the sychotic part over the jocking part any day. People tend to leave you alone.
with respect to thor. Can we get back to music please. I'm trying to learn something here.

thor,

Would you explain the exact point you are trying to make?

That samples can only be recorded with reverb?

Is that it? Honestly - answer that right now. No clever bullshit, just answer it.

That previous post wasn't really serious, yes, but I seriously want to know what you are trying to say. I haven't yet figured it out, because it doesn't gel with anything.

I am starting to think you are a plant from EWQLSO. Are you? Designed to undermine people's confidence in dry samples.

Okay! I guess then I must be psychotic and institutionalized also!

So Thor, maybe we could play a game of chess after we get our medication...

Thor (and I now use the name VERY ironically - the real Thor, standing next to Odin, would be disgusted with this pathetic lameass daring to use his name and start sharpening his mighty axe):

"Ignorance is bliss"

What ignorance are you referring to? Specifically?

William
You are correct in trying to decifer the salesman from the real issue. Often plants are themselves not aware. Marketing!!!.For Example NBC is owned by the PC computer. If you work for that bunch of people , you automatically are in a sales frenzy for your product. Good serious point to make. I offten get tired of trying to decifer myself.

I hope
I didn't offend NBC. among others to speak of.
Thanks.!

Perhaps I am being led on by someone who is under corporate mind-control. however, I theorize now he is actually an attempt at corporate sabotage. What else can one assume from such irrational statements?

His imperviousness to arguments that utterly destroy everything he said is quite strange. And he actually seems not to notice things that disintegrate the very ground he stands upon.

One can assume only treachery; or perhaps - I admit it - utter, abyssmal, and wretched stupidity.

Of course I mean this only in a positive, caring way. I wish everyone here only the best of help. Which may include that of a psychiatric nature, of course. Perhaps some de-programming might be in order?


"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

"Samples don't need to be recorded with embedded hall reverb..."

Déjà vu! "The Shining" [6] [6] [6] [6] [6]

Excellent point Guy!

Mr. Jack Thorrance is right now, at this very moment, writing that quote in many different ways among his pages of frenziedly typewritten sheets. But somehow, he can't believe it. He has to go on with the Madness. Because he is already a part of the Overlook.

(BTW - I am terribly sorry to have mentioned Thor's axe. I meant Thor's HAMMER of course! And polishing it, not sharpening it.)

Where is the post where I say that SAMPLES HAVE to be recorded with a Hall...?

You can record them however you want to, Sir William ...because for you it won't matter if an Orch is recorded in a great Room or a shitty one...

Please William, learn how to read...because you have missed the point ...the bus has left...

go back to the beginning of the thread and read it...maybe you get it then...

Hey Guy...you warned me, now I believe you....this is nuts !!

I am now a salesguy from EQLS or whatever its called...HAHA !!!

Yes, William...I am trying to sell EWest products - YOU GOT ME !! Shoot....

Well, no one knows me around here so.. I won't be as blunt as I am usually known for.

I just think there is an important underlying issue here. More important than making music.. more important than the technology behind it.. more important than ANYTHING. Protecting your ego. [8-)] I wont name names, because I don't want to seem like I'm taking sides. it rhymes with Chore though. [:P]

I hear and appreciate what Chore is saying. It's valid, but not absolute. I just think that is more of a personal taste. That's Cool. Personally I tend to agree with uh.. Tilliam. I think the point is simply this.. you have more flexability with dryer samples, than with wet ones. I'd personaly rather have better, more pro sounding samples (vsl).

I do think the that some of vsl's samples could have more POWER. That would be a valid argument. But, this is being addressed with the epic series. Epic strings should be stellar. Anyway.. continue on Chore and Tilliam. I'm baking some tollhouse cookies, and I want to enjoy them while you guys keep ripping each other to shreds. [:D]

I have just lost respect for this forum, I could of got out of line a few times myself, but some of you are degrading childishly this forum! Can't someone make a point here without others feeling threatened? The person who's name rhymes with core, NEVER initiated any attacks, to anybody, but just very amicably tried to make a point. And when 2 people are going head to head we don't need a third person (no names, but he enjoys rhymes) to take sides by adding provocative crap, that is totally childish. You can't help believing that there are alliances in this forum....
I have been with this forum for a year and I'm beginning to see the real colors of some. I know for a fact that some very bright people have left because of crap like this, if Thor doesn't get any more respect, even though he doesn't need my help, than I'm out.

And this doesn't mean this discussion should end here. The issue is not the topic but the way it's dealt with. Believe it or not, I had warned Thor what would happen if he opened that can of worm, and guess what?

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Thanks Guy for your kind words...if these "members" would have something to say that has anything to do with the subject matter (other than trying to bash on me in order to make themselves feel better) , I would be inclined to respond and engage in a technical/musical discussion between pros who know what they are talking about. But that's not possible with many of the latter posted "Members"

These guys are just not worth the time...

So Kubel, enjoy the cookies, no shredding on my behalf, I will leave that up to William and his Posse who seems to enjoy shredding...knock yourself out !! -

And just as a tip Kugelmeister: The discussion wasn't about flexibility of dry samples vs wet samples...please, if you want to join in here and add something useful, stop rhyming, go back and read all those other posts...you won't believe how all this got started. And also, don't be scared - you can use my name, you don't have to rhyme. Although, those rhymes where kinda funny...definitely got me smiling benignly.

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@Guy said:

I take it that this conversation will stay civil from beginning to end. [:)]

Look when I wrote that sentence. Before all this got out of hands, before the attacks, the insults, the rudeness etc...

Why did I say that? Because it seems everytime someone dares to challenge VSLs slight imperfection regarding the warmth of their sound, people seem to go bananas! "Oh my gosh how can he say that VSL tend to lack warmth???!"..... Well, I'm sorry but that's how I feel, that's what my ears hear and Herb, I'm not at all insecure in saying that to you as much as your product is the best on the market. [:D]

@Thor said:

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Thanks Guy for your kind words...if these "members" would have something to say that has anything to do with the subject matter (other than trying to bash on me in order to make themselves feel better) , I would be inclined to respond and engage in a technical/musical discussion between pros who know what they are talking about. But that's not possible with many of the latter posted "Members"

These guys are just not worth the time...

So Kubel, enjoy the cookies, no shredding on my behalf, I will leave that up to William and his Posse who seems to enjoy shredding...knock yourself out !! -

And just as a tip Kugelmeister: The discussion wasn't about flexibility of dry samples vs wet samples...please, if you want to join in here and add something useful, stop rhyming, go back and read all those other posts...you won't believe how all this got started. And also, don't be scared - you can use my name, you don't have to rhyme. Although, those rhymes where kinda funny...definitely got me smiling benignly.

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WOW. Ok.. I touched a few nerves.

Wet vs dry.. semantics. Fair enough? I think understand the topic just fine. Guy, I wasn't attacking anyone. I was actually trying to lighten things up, whilst offering my own opinion. I just call some things like I see it. I'm not on anyone's side. Btw.. I'm probably more of a pro than you care to jump to conclusions about. [[;)]]

Anyway go make music.. And stop whining.. *Just Kidding*.

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@Guy said:

I take it that this conversation will stay civil from beginning to end. [:)]

Look when I wrote that sentence. Before all this got out of hands, before the attacks, the insults, the rudeness etc...

Why did I say that? Because it seems everytime someone dares to challenge VSLs slight imperfection regarding the warmth of their sound, people seem to go bananas! "Oh my gosh how can he say that VSL tend to lack warmth???!"..... Well, I'm sorry but that's how I feel, that's what my ears hear and Herb, I'm not at all insecure in saying that to you as much as your product is the best on the market. [:D]


Very well said - I second it.

Kubel,

its all good ! You weren't around when the going got tough...hehe...so by the time you entered here, everybody was on edge already, a very unstable environment waiting to explode....

Cheers !
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