Dietz, can you perhaps shed some light on the new workflow for user who are already used to the current version of MIR? I know that certain "trade secrets" cannot be fully exposed yet. But it would be much appreciated if we can have an idea in order to get ready for any major changes, if required.

The basic idea of MIR ("conducting a virtual orchestra on a virtual stage") will remain the same, which means that you will be familiar instantly with the the actual MIR GUI (although it got re-coded almost from the ground up). Apart from that, you will use MIR Pro like you would use Vienna Ensemble Pro - closely integrated into the DAW of your choice.

In the end, this means that you don't have to deal with two (or more) completely seperated applications any more. Regarding the workflow you may have developed with the existing version of MIR, this might be the biggest difference (... and we hope that this change will receive a warm welcome even by die-hard MIR users ;-) ...) .

Kind regards,

Thanks Dietz. That's great news! Can't wait:)

Here's to hoping for an upgrade path from VEP! [;)]

An upgrage path from the current version of MIR is quite certain, but from VEP is unlikely.

Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

This is a big question, do I sell it with a friendly price and I sell it to all my user or do I put it too high so only professional studio can afford it 

I hope VSL's marketing has chose the 1st solution

• 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
• 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

This is THE dilemma [:D]

The marketing idea is to sell MIR with just a few room so it is cheap to users ; and then you can buy more rooms when you can afford 

It is the same marketing idea that the "new download instrument", SE ...  

Best

Cyril

Lol - Nice try Cyril, but I think the finance and marketing guys might have other ideas!

[:)]

@Cyril said:

Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

• 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
• 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

@Dietz said:

In the end, this means that you don't have to deal with two (or more) completely seperated applications any more. Regarding the workflow you may have developed with the existing version of MIR, this might be the biggest difference (... and we hope that this change will receive a warm welcome even by die-hard MIR users 😉 ...) .

Kind regards,

We know that many of you have developed nice basic templates for MIR. We have put quite some effort into the possibility of an easy transition from Vienna MIR to MIR Pro for our users. But you have to be aware of the fact that under the hood they are _completely_ different programs. Our developers have some ideas how to make "old" MIR Projects work with the new engine, but I can't promise you that you won't have to rebuild existing setups.

Thanks for your understanding!

Hi, Can you guys clarify this "end of spring" MIR Pro release time?  I've now heard that it probably won't be released till late summer.  Correct?  Understandable, if there are still issues, but I'll need to stop holding my breath if need be.             Cheers,   Tom

Hi Tom,

please stop holding your breath! ;-D

Actually, MIR Pro is more or less ready, but we will work another two months on it: We've decided to implement the possibities that were introduced with the new Hybrid Reverb into MIR, too. :-) Apart from that, we will do an extended testing phase due to the fact that MIR Pro will also be OS-X compatible, which is always a challenge.

Thanks for your patience,

@Dietz said:

MIR Pro is more or less ready

Oh my god, I'm going to flip! 😄

I 'd expect some transiction problems from MIR to MIR Pro as something inevitable, What I hope is there will be no change in format as with the first MIR[8-|]

@Dietz said:

MIR Pro will also be OS-X compatible, which is always a challenge.

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@Dietz said:

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Actually, MIR Pro is more or less ready, but we will work another two months on it: We've decided to implement the possibities that were introduced with the new Hybrid Reverb into MIR, too. :-) 

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[:O] Wow! [:O]

That's somehow funny, 'cause after almost one year of using MIR I don't like sound algorhythmic reverbs anymore...[:D]

Just of habit and fashion changes...

Personally, I don't need algorithmic reverbs for authentic spatial positioning either  ;-) .... but there's no doubt that our ears got somewhat used to the "sweetening" that the broad, modulated reverb tails can add to the natural room information. Right now, we're trying to find a sonically convincing and easy-to-use way to implement "best of both worlds" into MIR.

Have you yet decided anything about the pricing of MIR Pro, or if you have, can you talk about it yet? The Finnish Composers’ Copyright Society is paying their copyright royalties in a week and I was originally going to buy the product with that, but with MIR Pro not out yet I'm wondering how much of that I should save for buying this product when it is released.

Hi Dietz,

A quick question. Currently in my 2-machine system I have a 2008 Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8-core master and a big PC slave that I use for MIR processing. Will I need to replace this Mac Pro to work with MIR Pro even though I have this powerful PC?

In other words, do all machines in the MIR Pro network need to be able to process at the level currently required for MIR?

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