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  • Here's to hoping for an upgrade path from VEP! [;)]


  • An upgrage path from the current version of MIR is quite certain, but from VEP is unlikely.


  • Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

    This is a big question, do I sell it with a friendly price and I sell it to all my user or do I put it too high so only professional studio can afford it 

    I hope VSL's marketing has chose the 1st solution

    • 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
    • 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

    This is THE dilemma [:D]

    The marketing idea is to sell MIR with just a few room so it is cheap to users ; and then you can buy more rooms when you can afford 

    It is the same marketing idea that the "new download instrument", SE ...  

    Best

    Cyril


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" - 1 x 27" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D Dolby Atmos --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
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    Lol - Nice try Cyril, but I think the finance and marketing guys might have other ideas!

    [:)]

    @Cyril said:

    Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

    • 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
    • 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

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    @Dietz said:

    In the end, this means that you don't have to deal with two (or more) completely seperated applications any more. Regarding the workflow you may have developed with the existing version of MIR, this might be the biggest difference (... and we hope that this change will receive a warm welcome even by die-hard MIR users ๐Ÿ˜‰ ...) .

    Kind regards,

    Can we expect to use our old templates or have we to build up new ones? Some apprehensions...๐Ÿ˜Š Kind regards Frank

  • We know that many of you have developed nice basic templates for MIR. We have put quite some effort into the possibility of an easy transition from Vienna MIR to MIR Pro for our users. But you have to be aware of the fact that under the hood they are _completely_ different programs. Our developers have some ideas how to make "old" MIR Projects work with the new engine, but I can't promise you that you won't have to rebuild existing setups.

    Thanks for your understanding!


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks for the info. Changing the workflow needs time, so good to know this in advance to include it in the planning. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to the new tool!!! So, a succesful time for the MIR pro - development-team!   Frank

  • Hi, Can you guys clarify this "end of spring" MIR Pro release time?  I've now heard that it probably won't be released till late summer.  Correct?  Understandable, if there are still issues, but I'll need to stop holding my breath if need be.             Cheers,   Tom


  • Hi Tom,

    please stop holding your breath! ;-D

    Actually, MIR Pro is more or less ready, but we will work another two months on it: We've decided to implement the possibities that were introduced with the new Hybrid Reverb into MIR, too. :-) Apart from that, we will do an extended testing phase due to the fact that MIR Pro will also be OS-X compatible, which is always a challenge.

    Thanks for your patience,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    MIR Pro is more or less ready

    Oh my god, I'm going to flip! ๐Ÿ˜„


  • I 'd expect some transiction problems from MIR to MIR Pro as something inevitable, What I hope is there will be no change in format as with the first MIR[8-|]


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    @Dietz said:

    MIR Pro will also be OS-X compatible, which is always a challenge.

    I... I love you...


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    @Dietz said:

    (...)

    Actually, MIR Pro is more or less ready, but we will work another two months on it: We've decided to implement the possibities that were introduced with the new Hybrid Reverb into MIR, too. :-) 

    (...)

    [:O] Wow! [:O]

    That's somehow funny, 'cause after almost one year of using MIR I don't like sound algorhythmic reverbs anymore...[:D]

    Just of habit and fashion changes...

    Beside my jokes - so can we expect e.g. using the venues of the studio roompacks for positioning and "ER"s with adding an "algo"-tail - all done with the only one "plug in" - MIR pro? Sounds really awesome... Frank

  • Personally, I don't need algorithmic reverbs for authentic spatial positioning either  ;-) .... but there's no doubt that our ears got somewhat used to the "sweetening" that the broad, modulated reverb tails can add to the natural room information. Right now, we're trying to find a sonically convincing and easy-to-use way to implement "best of both worlds" into MIR.


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Even it was sayed in a funny way, I experienced really a change of my taste using almost excessive MIR. Nevertheless I find this intended implement a sensational message. (Thanks for giving us so quickly). Makes it easier anymore to accept the immenently change of workflow. I like the idea to have it all in one tool! Really looking forward now!!! Frank

  • Have you yet decided anything about the pricing of MIR Pro, or if you have, can you talk about it yet? The Finnish Composersโ€™ Copyright Society is paying their copyright royalties in a week and I was originally going to buy the product with that, but with MIR Pro not out yet I'm wondering how much of that I should save for buying this product when it is released.


  • Hi Dietz,

    A quick question. Currently in my 2-machine system I have a 2008 Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8-core master and a big PC slave that I use for MIR processing. Will I need to replace this Mac Pro to work with MIR Pro even though I have this powerful PC?

    In other words, do all machines in the MIR Pro network need to be able to process at the level currently required for MIR?

    .


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    @Sami Boman said:

    Have you yet decided anything about the pricing of MIR Pro, or if you have, can you talk about it yet? The Finnish Composersโ€™ Copyright Society is paying their copyright royalties in a week and I was originally going to buy the product with that, but with MIR Pro not out yet I'm wondering how much of that I should save for buying this product when it is released.

    Thanks for your interest, Sami - highly appreciated.

    There is no final price tag for MIR Pro, but I think it is safe to say that it will cost at least as much as Vienna MIR does now. There will be upgrade paths from Vienna MIR, BTW.

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Jack Weaver said:

    Hi Dietz,

    A quick question. Currently in my 2-machine system I have a 2008 Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8-core master and a big PC slave that I use for MIR processing. Will I need to replace this Mac Pro to work with MIR Pro even though I have this powerful PC?

    In other words, do all machines in the MIR Pro network need to be able to process at the level currently required for MIR?

    MIR Pro's core engine will have to reside on one machine, so I assume you will simply use the most powerful one for the task. ๐Ÿ˜Š


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Thank you very much for the quick answer Dietz.

    @Dietz said:

    I think it is safe to say that it will cost at least as much as Vienna MIR does now.

    That's only rational and fair. I was thinking more if it will be closer to 1000โ‚ฌ than 2000โ‚ฌ, but I think you already answered that question. ๐Ÿ˜Š