Hi Martin,
please don't feel offended,but why VI does not time-stretch all the phrase samples automatically to Host DAW Tempo? why does it have to have a time stretch level to a certain percentage of the original phrase tempo?
I appreciate the very high (or highest) sample Quality of VSL,so that I do not look around again to find some other instrument as main Instrument,
but I have to admit as well that,VSL is not as straight forward as other instruments (one of e.g using TVEC system),that just need load and play.
I may be not as technical as other user.what i want is to play my idea straight away(but again, maybe this is only applied to me )
and I already am very happy to see a huge move by VI Pro ( and ask for "american way" pre order ?! )
Thank You,
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Hm, seems I missed the details of timestretch upon reading up on the features of VI Pro. I reckon that one of the reasons for not automatically time-stretching phrases would be that this would limit the uses of the phrases. For instance, I might want to have a phrase play triplets. Or I might want to timestretch a non-phrase.
However, it would be really helpful to be able to type in the new tempo and perhaps even the time signature of the phrase, or at least have this information displayed. Having a slider tell you that the articulation is 107.5% the length of the original one isn't entirely helpful, at least not IMHO.
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@MS said:
Hi,
could you mention any particular areas you would like to see improved upon? We have done a tremendous amount of work with VI Pro, to make our library as accessible and playable as possible, and I believe we have gone some steps beyond what any other sampler on the market can offer for orchestral samples.
Cheers,
Hey Martin,
If you would please read this response from a member of the Vienna Community
http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/25771/171264.aspx#171264
and then my response
http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/25771/172458.aspx#172458
Basic request is for a complete, all encompasing, user instruction manual written to teach (didactic, pedagogcial) the beginner how to successfully move from the ground to flying with VSL. We all expect a certain amount of computer expertise when using VST instruments and that's understood.
However, nothing VSL gives us (and it's not really a gift-as a paying customer, it's our right) allows us to move towards being an advanced pilot-
I would expect complete documentation for the Vienna Insturments interface would run at least 80 pages-or more.
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I agree that a very in depth manual, discussing (for example) each articulation, etc, is really lacking with VSL! [N]
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Hello,
we are looking at 2 different things here:
1) An in-depth manual for each VI Collection, basically available here for the DVD Collections, in the respective Download Section of the User Area for our Download Products. The structure of all programs is described, along with the technical details. And it´s easier to listen to a detaché sample and understand what it is, than to describe it.
However, i believe that our Vienna Academy describes all instruments very well, with many aspects from sound production over playing techniques to sound combinations - this should also work as an inspiration and knowledge base.
2) And a step-by-step guide on how to work musically with all aspects of this library, which is harder to cover. I hope we will have more tutorials available soon, like the Special Edition Demo #1 that comes with 3 video tutorials and Sequencer files.
The Video Tutorials for Vienna Instruments show how the Vienna Instruments work - with simple examples.
You can find Guy Bacos Video Demos here.
And there are some MIDI files available for User Demos in the Demo Zone.
I agree that there can always be more demos and tutorials - but there will never be "the one way" to approach virtual orchestration, everyone works a little different, all over the world.
Basically, the Vienna Symphonic Library produces musical instruments (and if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...). I agree that we can and should provide more tutorials and guides, and I hope we will get there sooner rather than later.
Best,
Paul
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@Paul said:
....if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...Well Paul, to be fair, there ARE other violin makers! [:D]
But only VSL makes VI and VE and VE Pro etc etc and we the users would love to learn by seeing how you the creators (the experts) use your incredible inventions. I find watching someone's workflow with a program or plugin is really helpful. (Like the example mentioned above with Eric Persing of Spectrasonics - VERY useful tutorials indeed)
I would like to see and hear folks from the VSL team programming an orchestral part, saying "I'm using the legato patch here, but I need a sustained note, so I'll use this technique to cross-fade to a sustain patch." Stuff like that...
All the videos so far have been helpful - please give us more, particularly for when VI Pro is released.
Thanks in advance
Colin
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Hi Colin,
I like Eric´s demos as well, and apart from the fact that he´s an incredible musician, the Spectrasonics instruments are a different kind of beast [:D]
But I hear you, and we´ll do our best to add more videos (just working on the Vienna Instruments PRO videos right now).
Best,
Paul
Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support -
Beat Kaufmann has this type of tutorials on his website, and they're cheap.
http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/
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Great news Paul. Really curious what new achievements / controllability you folks have come up with.
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Looking forward to that new version.
By the way, Paul, I saw on the "sneak preview" that it will cost a "moderate price"......
Will it be a one license per computer price ?
Because, if so, a "moderate price" can end up no longer being so moderate for users with several machines....
Is it a just a hopeless dream to envision an authorization scheme à la Vienna Suite ?
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125€ is quite affordable. Although on quite the budget atm, I think I will have to purchase this before sep 15 to recieve the Flugelhorn. I can always fall back on eating noodles. :)
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Herb and Paul,
The demos are superb. Great job!
Looking forward to the product once available.
J
