I agree that a very in depth manual, discussing (for example) each articulation, etc, is really lacking with VSL! [N]
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Hello,
we are looking at 2 different things here:
1) An in-depth manual for each VI Collection, basically available here for the DVD Collections, in the respective Download Section of the User Area for our Download Products. The structure of all programs is described, along with the technical details. And it´s easier to listen to a detaché sample and understand what it is, than to describe it.
However, i believe that our Vienna Academy describes all instruments very well, with many aspects from sound production over playing techniques to sound combinations - this should also work as an inspiration and knowledge base.
2) And a step-by-step guide on how to work musically with all aspects of this library, which is harder to cover. I hope we will have more tutorials available soon, like the Special Edition Demo #1 that comes with 3 video tutorials and Sequencer files.
The Video Tutorials for Vienna Instruments show how the Vienna Instruments work - with simple examples.
You can find Guy Bacos Video Demos here.
And there are some MIDI files available for User Demos in the Demo Zone.
I agree that there can always be more demos and tutorials - but there will never be "the one way" to approach virtual orchestration, everyone works a little different, all over the world.
Basically, the Vienna Symphonic Library produces musical instruments (and if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...). I agree that we can and should provide more tutorials and guides, and I hope we will get there sooner rather than later.
Best,
Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL -
@Paul said:
....if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...Well Paul, to be fair, there ARE other violin makers! [:D]
But only VSL makes VI and VE and VE Pro etc etc and we the users would love to learn by seeing how you the creators (the experts) use your incredible inventions. I find watching someone's workflow with a program or plugin is really helpful. (Like the example mentioned above with Eric Persing of Spectrasonics - VERY useful tutorials indeed)
I would like to see and hear folks from the VSL team programming an orchestral part, saying "I'm using the legato patch here, but I need a sustained note, so I'll use this technique to cross-fade to a sustain patch." Stuff like that...
All the videos so far have been helpful - please give us more, particularly for when VI Pro is released.
Thanks in advance
Colin
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Hi Colin,
I like Eric´s demos as well, and apart from the fact that he´s an incredible musician, the Spectrasonics instruments are a different kind of beast [:D]
But I hear you, and we´ll do our best to add more videos (just working on the Vienna Instruments PRO videos right now).
Best,
Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL -
Beat Kaufmann has this type of tutorials on his website, and they're cheap.
http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/
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Great news Paul. Really curious what new achievements / controllability you folks have come up with.
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Looking forward to that new version.
By the way, Paul, I saw on the "sneak preview" that it will cost a "moderate price"......
Will it be a one license per computer price ?
Because, if so, a "moderate price" can end up no longer being so moderate for users with several machines....
Is it a just a hopeless dream to envision an authorization scheme à la Vienna Suite ?
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125€ is quite affordable. Although on quite the budget atm, I think I will have to purchase this before sep 15 to recieve the Flugelhorn. I can always fall back on eating noodles. :)
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Herb and Paul,
The demos are superb. Great job!
Looking forward to the product once available.
J
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@musos said:
I hope the actual interface is darker and easier to read than what we see on the videos. Some of the areas appear to lack contrast...Agreed -- light text on a dark background is not ideal for TEXT. Especially for those of us who are not 18 anymore. (protools 8 GUI argument all over again - danger!). Hopefully, the patch/matrix/preset library window will be easy to read, and in a perfect world, the interface will be expandable and text size will be a preference (ala Kontakt) for those of us who have good vision, but are just a bit older...
As I continue to watch all the videos (there goes all productivity this afternoon) I am more and more impressed with the featureset. Congratulations to the entire VI Pro team!
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@ Herb and Paul.
It is amazing, so let us have the possibility to buy it. It needs a bit time to come over with every function inside, and it offers new ways to make an orchestra sound personally unique. Great development Vienna TEAM.
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@Jann said:
When I clicked on the 'Download' buttons on the 'VIPro product page - Videos section' no download was intiated, but instead I got the message 'No File ID was specified'.
Hi, sorry for the missing downloads - there were wrong IDs assigned to the files. It's working now!
Have fun,
David Ender / VSL Manuals & IT