@MS said:

Hi,

could you mention any particular areas you would like to see improved upon? We have done a tremendous amount of work with VI Pro, to make our library as accessible and playable as possible, and I believe we have gone some steps beyond what any other sampler on the market can offer for orchestral samples.

Cheers,

Hey Martin,

If you would please read this response from a member of the Vienna Community

http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/25771/171264.aspx#171264

and then my response

http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/25771/172458.aspx#172458

Basic request is for a complete, all encompasing, user instruction manual written to teach (didactic, pedagogcial) the beginner how to successfully move from the ground to flying with VSL. We all expect a certain amount of computer expertise when using VST instruments and that's understood.

However, nothing VSL gives us (and it's not really a gift-as a paying customer, it's our right) allows us to move towards being an advanced pilot-

I would expect complete documentation for the Vienna Insturments interface would run at least 80 pages-or more.

I agree that a very in depth manual, discussing (for example) each articulation, etc, is really lacking with VSL! [N]

Hello,

we are looking at 2 different things here:

1) An in-depth manual for each VI Collection, basically available here for the DVD Collections, in the respective Download Section of the User Area for our Download Products. The structure of all programs is described, along with the technical details. And it´s easier to listen to a detaché sample and understand what it is, than to describe it.

However, i believe that our Vienna Academy describes all instruments very well, with many aspects from sound production over playing techniques to sound combinations - this should also work as an inspiration and knowledge base.

2) And a step-by-step guide on how to work musically with all aspects of this library, which is harder to cover. I hope we will have more tutorials available soon, like the Special Edition Demo #1 that comes with 3 video tutorials and Sequencer files.

The Video Tutorials for Vienna Instruments show how the Vienna Instruments work - with simple examples.

You can find Guy Bacos Video Demos here.

And there are some MIDI files available for User Demos in the Demo Zone.

I agree that there can always be more demos and tutorials - but there will never be "the one way" to approach virtual orchestration, everyone works a little different, all over the world.

Basically, the Vienna Symphonic Library produces musical instruments (and if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...). I agree that we can and should provide more tutorials and guides, and I hope we will get there sooner rather than later.

Best,

Paul

@Paul said:

....if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...

Well Paul, to be fair, there ARE other violin makers!  [:D]

But only VSL makes VI and VE and VE Pro etc etc and we the users would love to learn by seeing how you the creators (the experts) use your incredible inventions. I find watching someone's workflow with a program or plugin is really helpful. (Like the example mentioned above with Eric Persing of Spectrasonics - VERY useful tutorials indeed)

I would like to see and hear folks from the VSL team programming an orchestral part, saying "I'm using the legato patch here, but I need a sustained note, so I'll use this technique to cross-fade to a sustain patch." Stuff like that...

All the videos so far have been helpful - please give us more, particularly for when VI Pro is released.

Thanks in advance 

Colin

Hi Colin,

I like Eric´s demos as well, and apart from the fact that he´s an incredible musician, the Spectrasonics instruments are a different kind of beast [:D]

But I hear you, and we´ll do our best to add more videos (just working on the Vienna Instruments PRO videos right now).

Best,

Paul

@Paul said:

and if you buy a Stradivari, you don´t expect the seller to give you lessons...

Beat Kaufmann has this type of tutorials on his website, and they're cheap.

http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/

I know Summer is ending the 21st of September but do you think VI Pro will be released earlier :)?

Yes [:)]

Great news Paul.   Really curious what new achievements / controllability you folks have come up with.

Hi Rob,

here´s a sneak preview!

Best,

Paul

Looking forward to that new version.

By the way, Paul, I saw on the "sneak preview" that it will cost a "moderate price"......

Will it be a one license per computer price ?

Because, if so, a "moderate price" can end up no longer being so moderate for users with several machines....

Is it a just a hopeless dream to envision an authorization scheme à la Vienna Suite ?

125€ is quite affordable. Although on quite the budget atm, I think I will have to purchase this before sep 15 to recieve the Flugelhorn. I can always fall back on eating noodles. :)

@sirbellog said:

Will it be a one license per computer price ?

Hi Sirbellog,

With one VI PRO purchase you will recieve 3 licenses, analog to Vienna Suite and Vienna Ensemble PRO.

best

Herb

When I clicked on the 'Download' buttons on the 'VIPro product page - Videos section' no download was intiated, but instead I got the message 'No File ID was specified'.

Herb and Paul,

The demos are superb. Great job!

Looking forward to the product once available.

J

Just watched the demos online: I'm very impressed by the possibilities of the new VIPro, great job! 

I just watched the Overview video - this looks immense!!

One thing:

I hope the actual interface is darker and easier to read than what we see on the videos. Some of the areas appear to lack contrast...

@musos said:

I hope the actual interface is darker and easier to read than what we see on the videos. Some of the areas appear to lack contrast...

Agreed -- light text on a dark background is not ideal for TEXT. Especially for those of us who are not 18 anymore. (protools 8 GUI argument all over again - danger!).  Hopefully, the patch/matrix/preset library window will be easy to read, and in a perfect world, the interface will be expandable and text size will be a preference (ala Kontakt) for those of us who have good vision, but are just a bit older...

As I continue to watch all the videos (there goes all productivity this afternoon) I am more and more impressed with the featureset. Congratulations to the entire VI Pro team!

@ Herb and Paul.

It is amazing, so let us have the possibility to buy it. It needs a bit time to come over with every function inside, and it offers new ways to make an orchestra sound personally unique. Great development Vienna TEAM.