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  • Hey guys,

    I would like to get Vienna Ensemble Pro when it gets released to run VST plug-ins on my laptop slave.  Problem is my laptop only has 100 megabits.  Would thsi be enough?


  •  you would be able to run a few things, but basically gigabit is a system requirement.

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:

     PPC are often not even powerful enough for Vienna Instruments only, they are definately not powerful enough for the Vienna Suite convolution reverb.

    Thank you for further explaining your position, but I must once again disagree with the statement above. As a Dual 2.5 Ghz PPC G5 user, I just finished 6 full orchestral mockups using VSL and it worked GREAT! I ran combination of Opus 1, VSL SE & VSL VI Solo strings, chamber stings, and Appassionata strings between 38 EXS instruments, a full VE (15 instances with an average of 3 patches each) and 6 additional VSL VI's in Logic 8.0.2, all with directional mixer and most with EQ. Granted I'm running close to capacity, but to say a G5 can barley run VSL VI is 100% FALSE! I do it everyday, and can post links to some mp3's if you'd like. Granted this is not "as a slave" but rather on my main DAW, but I would think a slave would use even LESS resources, as you dont have to run your DAW as well. 

    I think my playcount above would be extremely valuable as a slave, dont you? And there are plenty of others out there who run happily still run PPC G5's. Obviously in the future PPC numbers will diminish, but why cut out this customer base right now?

    http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46125

    http://www.logic-users-group.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5644

    http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=40118&highlight=ppc+show+numbers

    http://vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12278&highlight

    http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=618477#post618477

    p.s. anyone know why the line breaks in my posts dont work anymore? They use to work fine...hmmm they worked after my edit. Odd. 


  • set editor mode to advanced in your profile to get linebreaks with safari (and more options)

     

     i don't generally disagree with your reply and if used in a disciplined manner you can get far with a G5 (and you are probably still on 10.4)

    on one hand a slave might need a litle bit less resources if used over network (audio output) but on the other hand we add network load and third party plugins would strenghten the multitasking capabilities even more ...

     

    we can't expect groundbreaking development or new machines for PPC, so adding new stuff 2 years after this platform has been retired is a waste of resources IMO. not even apple touches the kernel functions for PPC anymore ...

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Thanks for the info.  Would I be able to run 1 instance of altiverb on 100 mbits ethernet?


  •  sorry i don't understand - altiverb over ethernet - how should that work?


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Well once Vienna ensemble pro comes I heard it can host VST plugins.  So would it be possible to host Altiverb on a slave PC?


  • you could insert altiverb into VE computing some audio signal also generated on the slave,

    you could not run altiverb via VE to just take the load from your host for a track on your host,

    third party support in VE means primary you will be able to load instrument players into VE (eg. kontakt)

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Thanks Christian,

    I had no idea I wouldn't be able to load vst plugins on my slave using vienna Enemble Pro.  So is FX teleport my only option to do this if I don't want to purchse an audio card for the laptop?


  • maybe i've not been clear - you cannot simply offload effects from your host, but you could insert it into a slot within VE3.

    but to insert it you would need something to be inserted into ... from the host comes midi, returned is audio - whatever you insert then on the slave, there must be any instrument playing (producing sound) on which effects can be applied.

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • I think that the point is that VE Pro does not send audio from the host to the slave. VE Pro will receive only MIDI on the slave and will send audio back to the host. So audio is one-way.

    So yes, FXT is the only app that does that.


  • I am trying to figure out if VE Pro will run as a 64bit-App. on OSX 10.5? If so will it let us use 64bit-Plug-ins and break the 4GB barrier for samples? The next question of course is, what Plug-ins are 64bit?? I believe Kontakt 3.5 will be if they ever release it but what other 3rd party plug-ins are out there that are true 64bit? Either way I can't wait to get my hands on Vienna Ensemble Pro and put my MacPro to work!

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    @digiot said:

    if VE Pro will run as a 64bit-App. on OSX 10.5
     

    yes, and probably we will actually see an *intermediate* version (without PRO but with 64bit support).

    for plugins some AU specialist needs to step in ...

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • I think you'll be out of luck finding many 64bit plugins at the moment. In order to run, you would need a 64bit sequencer. VE can do it because of the special wrapper/shell that it runs. I think that when a company says that they have a 64bit version for OSX, they are probably talking about a standalone.

    DG


  • Well that is exactly my point. If VEPro will run as a 64bit host, we will be able run 64bit Plug-ins(Kontakt3.5) and load it up with a theoretical 32Gigs of samples!? I am aware that 64bit Sequencers on the Mac are non existent but that is why a standalone workstation running VEPro would rock. If only the Plug-in manufacturers would recode for 64bit! To take this a step further, if VEPro is 64bit we should only need one instance and load multiple 32bit Sampler instruments each loaded up to the 32bit capped 3.?Gigs right???

  • Is there a 64bit plugin for Kontakt on OSX? I thought that there was only a  64bit standalone.

    DG


  • I believe K3.5 is 32-Bit on the Mac side, but uses a memory server to allow for loading of memory beyond 2-3gb. It should work in any 32-bit host (fingers crossed for VE Pro), either VST or AU.


  • Does anyone know when will VE Pro come out? Thanks!!


  • I'm sure soon :)


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    @thamesonfire said:

    I believe K3.5 is 32-Bit on the Mac side, but uses a memory server to allow for loading of memory beyond 2-3gb. It should work in any 32-bit host (fingers crossed for VE Pro), either VST or AU.

    That's how it will work in a 32-bit host. As a standalone, it's to be a 64-bit app. ON OS.X.5, using VE Pro I think it will run as one. There are apps here which DO.