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    Well once Vienna ensemble pro comes I heard it can host VST plugins.  So would it be possible to host Altiverb on a slave PC?
  • cmC
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    cmC

    you could insert altiverb into VE computing some audio signal also generated on the slave,

    you could not run altiverb via VE to just take the load from your host for a track on your host,

    third party support in VE means primary you will be able to load instrument players into VE (eg. kontakt)

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    Thanks Christian,

    I had no idea I wouldn't be able to load vst plugins on my slave using vienna Enemble Pro.  So is FX teleport my only option to do this if I don't want to purchse an audio card for the laptop?
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    maybe i've not been clear - you cannot simply offload effects from your host, but you could insert it into a slot within VE3.

    but to insert it you would need something to be inserted into ... from the host comes midi, returned is audio - whatever you insert then on the slave, there must be any instrument playing (producing sound) on which effects can be applied.

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    I think that the point is that VE Pro does not send audio from the host to the slave. VE Pro will receive only MIDI on the slave and will send audio back to the host. So audio is one-way.

    So yes, FXT is the only app that does that.
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    I am trying to figure out if VE Pro will run as a 64bit-App. on OSX 10.5? If so will it let us use 64bit-Plug-ins and break the 4GB barrier for samples? The next question of course is, what Plug-ins are 64bit?? I believe Kontakt 3.5 will be if they ever release it but what other 3rd party plug-ins are out there that are true 64bit? Either way I can't wait to get my hands on Vienna Ensemble Pro and put my MacPro to work!
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
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    @digiot said:

    if VE Pro will run as a 64bit-App. on OSX 10.5
     

    yes, and probably we will actually see an *intermediate* version (without PRO but with 64bit support).

    for plugins some AU specialist needs to step in ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    I think you'll be out of luck finding many 64bit plugins at the moment. In order to run, you would need a 64bit sequencer. VE can do it because of the special wrapper/shell that it runs. I think that when a company says that they have a 64bit version for OSX, they are probably talking about a standalone.

    DG
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    Well that is exactly my point. If VEPro will run as a 64bit host, we will be able run 64bit Plug-ins(Kontakt3.5) and load it up with a theoretical 32Gigs of samples!? I am aware that 64bit Sequencers on the Mac are non existent but that is why a standalone workstation running VEPro would rock. If only the Plug-in manufacturers would recode for 64bit! To take this a step further, if VEPro is 64bit we should only need one instance and load multiple 32bit Sampler instruments each loaded up to the 32bit capped 3.?Gigs right???
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    Is there a 64bit plugin for Kontakt on OSX? I thought that there was only a  64bit standalone.

    DG
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    I believe K3.5 is 32-Bit on the Mac side, but uses a memory server to allow for loading of memory beyond 2-3gb. It should work in any 32-bit host (fingers crossed for VE Pro), either VST or AU.
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    Does anyone know when will VE Pro come out? Thanks!!
  • R
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    I'm sure soon :)
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    @thamesonfire said:

    I believe K3.5 is 32-Bit on the Mac side, but uses a memory server to allow for loading of memory beyond 2-3gb. It should work in any 32-bit host (fingers crossed for VE Pro), either VST or AU.

    That's how it will work in a 32-bit host. As a standalone, it's to be a 64-bit app. ON OS.X.5, using VE Pro I think it will run as one. There are apps here which DO.
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    @cm said:

     welcome robjohn33,

    no, you don't need to have a Vienna Instruments Library registered for purchasing VE PRO, however it will take another month or so until it will be released ....

    kompakt is a player for certain libraries - from what i've heard it will run as well as kontakt

    christian

    So, you are pretty confident that VE Pro will host Kontakt 3.5? I did already invest in VE Pro. If it will host K3.5, I intend to invest in a second machine and run one as a slave. This is all good news, I'm more than impressed as it is, with Vienna.
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    @am_27761 said:

    I think that the point is that VE Pro does not send audio from the host to the slave. VE Pro will receive only MIDI on the slave and will send audio back to the host. So audio is one-way.

    So yes, FXT is the only app that does that.

     

     Thanks to clarifiy this embarrassing restrictions "audio is one way". But perhaps it will be two ways in a future?!

    Best regards

    Dup
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    I'm not sure I'd describe it as an "embarrassing restriction". VE Pro is designed to be an instrument host, so there is no need to have audio going in both directions. Although it would be useful to have VE Pro work like a cross-platform FX teleport it's not really what it's been created to do. Who knows though - maybe they are planning this for future versions...

    Incidentally is there any more information on when we can expect it to be released? I know these things are flexible and a lot of problems can occur at the last minute but I was just wondering how it's progressing.

    Martin
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    @mosso said:

    I'm not sure I'd describe it as an "embarrassing restriction". 

     

    Sorry I didn't want to say or that someboy thinks that....! but for me it can be a restriction but not sure.. Must try when I will buy a new pc with more power... don't want for example to buy two altiverb or plugin twice

    Dup
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Dup - Vienna Suite comes with three licences, not just one. You could use VS Convolution Reverb on two machines, provided you have downloaded the licences to two individual eLicensers (aka. "Vienna keys").

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Hi all.

    I'm late to the party looking at VE pro - I understand the basic nature of this major upgrade - running third party plugins across your sample based network - mac and pc... whatever... but I can't find the write up still existing anywhere. Is there still a working link where the nuts and bolts of Ve pro are explained?

    Cheers

    David Tobin