Jesus Daryl, I sometimes wonder what's going on in your head. These are SAMPLES for Christ Sake. It's not real you know - it's real in the sample context, sure, but this endless fkg comparison with real players is becoming almost obsessional.

It's an ongoing developement, this business with samples and as time goes by, R&D in this field will make things even better as time goes on.

Best

PR

@PaulR said:

Jesus Daryl, I sometimes wonder what's going on in your head. These are SAMPLES for Christ Sake. It's not real you know - it's real in the sample context, sure, but this endless fkg comparison with real players is becoming almost obsessional.

It's an ongoing developement, this business with samples and as time goes by, R&D in this field will make things even better as time goes on.

Best

PR

I don't understand the problem. Of course I am comparing the samples with real players, otherwise there is no point for me. Trying to achieve the best one can is, by it's very nature, likely to be obsessive. Look at some of the things already in the VSL package; these would have been out of the question a few years ago, and anyone who asked for them would have been considered to be some sort of nutter.

As far as the ongoing development is concerned, if Herb wasn't keen on improving the sample situation, he would never have begun the VSL venture in the first place. Constructive criticism is one way to find out what needs to improved in future, and then it is possible to look for a solution. It looks as if I'm going to have to refrain from posting if nobody is interested in hearing my views [:(]

DG

I'm interested, please keep posting.
To compare with the real thing is the only "objective" leveling rule I have.

best
Herb

@DG said:

It looks as if I'm going to have to refrain from posting if nobody is interested in hearing my views [:(]

DG

Actually Daryl, I requested your company in the Dynamics thread earlier today, but you may have missed it. This is because of just what we're talking about here and your conducting expertise.
Of course I and everyone is interested in what you say. It's extremely interesting -it's just sometimes a softer approach - and before you say 'hark who's talking' -I would agree! [:D]

@PaulR said:

Actually Daryl, I requested your company in the Dynamics thread earlier today, but you may have missed it. This is because of just what we're talking about here and your conducting expertise.
Of course I and everyone is interested in what you say. It's extremely interesting -it's just sometimes a softer approach - and before you say 'hark who's talking' -I would agree! [:D]

Ok, I'll bite...

DG

I hope that this is isnt of-thread.
What about doing a mockup with J.Sibelius "Andante Festivo" ? A very nice piece, and I also think that it would have sounded really good with the VSL-sound
[:)]

Love the Mahler 5th demo. This was a very good approximation of the piece. Being a Mahler nut for 15 years and having owned 5 different versions of his symphonies, I am a real skeptic. But you did a great job!

Impressive - you have the complete symphonies in five performances? I have a number of complete runs of them but have not tallied them up. (It is difficult to see into my LP stacks these days.) My favorites are the Solti in general, though Ormandy and the Philadelphia's Second is of course the ultimate. Nothing else even comes close.

hi,
What is the process to create those demo ?
Are the VSL team use some Score Scanner system ? like SmartScore ?
do they play manually each part ...etc.?

thx
zGo

You take a music score, on paper, and feed it through a shredder. Then you take all the little pieces of paper, mash them up with some water, and pour the mix into the disc drive of a computer equipped with VSL samples. Wait about three minutes (six to seven on slower models) and you will then hear your music coming out the speakers, with rich, full expressive articulations and dynamics.

That sounds great, William.
I've to give it a try.

At the moment I'm working in a more conservative fashion:
Performing each instrument on the keyboard and recording midi track by midi track with my sequenzer programm (Cubase).

best
Herb

hmm, any chance to get Princess Leia midi file?[:)] I love to see it, and try how Opus handle it...

I've posted some midifiles in this topic (including Leia)

http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?p=35865#35865

best
Herb

Thanks Herb!!! [H]

Goodness-- what can I say that hasn't already been said? Hats off to Herb and Dietz for the demos.

It's not only encouraging to hear the possibilities with VSL, but just the few tips and insights to preparing the sequences, what sounds were used, how it was EQ'd, etc., offers some great staring points.

I'm looking forward to Altiverb 5 (and MIR!!)-- but tell me:

... do you use Space Designer at all?

Congratulations--keep the demos coming!
JWL

@JWL said:

[...] Hats off to Herb and Dietz for the demos.[...]
Congratulations--keep the demos coming!
JWL

Thanks a lot, but: Honour to whom honour is due - I'm just the engineer :-] ... Herb is the Master of Music (and MIDI).

And yes, I think we will keep them coming!

/Dietz

How many computers were used to make the Princess Leia Theme, and what soft sampler was used? i.e. Two Pentium 4/2.8GHz running GS3, etc.?