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by their silence they have made it clear the upgrade price is going up and that’s that. They know very well that many people will upgrade anyway despite this and they are betting that they will make more money this way, even if some disgruntled users pass on vep7 altogether. Who’s to know how that will go we will never know whether they end up making more money this way or not but for my part they will not get my money unless it turns out to so much better then vep6 that it’s pretty much like a completely new breakthrough product. They have priced me out of it. That’s my bottom line and probably will be for a few other people but I think overall most people will swallow their tears and pay for it, and vsl knows it. There is nothing else for them to say that will improve the situation honestly. This is what they are going to charge. So take it or leave it. I will be leaving it. Maybe vep8 will catch my interest. I do think in a broader sense vsl is harming themselves with these types of policies in the long run. But time will telll.
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@Remoteguy aka MonsterousWierd[b]issimo[/b] You are sounding somehow frustrated!? I am not complaining. I am someone who acts instead of complaining. That is why I was reacting by pushing the button at Bestservice instead here. And the deal was ok. BTW making good deals is a matter of timing and Charme. Having the right girl sitting at the right place can save you tons of money ;) ... and LAJ has ... ;))
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@Remoteguy aka MonsterousWierd[b]issimo[/b] You are sounding somehow frustrated!? I am not complaining. I am someone who acts instead of complaining. That is why I was reacting by pushing the button at Bestservice instead here. And the deal was ok. BTW making good deals is a matter of timing and Charme. Having the right girl sitting at the right place can save you tons of money 😉 ... and LAJ has ... ;))
This is very good. Maybe you should have this girl get VEPro 7 for you since you would rather cry about the price?
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To be very honest I'm a bit surprised by the large discussion about licenses: actually if you own VEP 6, you may update 1 licence + EO2.0 for 75€ and if you need to update all the 3 VEP 6 licenses you just buy 2 more single licence update at 45€ each. What's wrong?
Total cost is easy to calculate, and I don't think it's just a bad policy change, the opposite it has some advantage as well (e.g. if you don't need additional licenses or if you need just 1, you will pay according your real need, not being forced to the batch).
What's a bit weird instead is the almost total lack of technical features explanation, but we are not forced to buy today:
the people buying today just trust VSL for the previous good experience with VE Pro, and hope it will keep the standard. Due to the fact VEP is the core of my system I had no doubt about using the last version available, because the actual one starts to be unstable and conflicts with recent OS and VST updates are day by day more frequent, so a VEP software update was really welcome if it just makes the program solid and compatible again.
Any additional feature beside stability and compatibility is very welcome, but not the core motivation factor for me. I just hope VSL will not disappoint the trust... in case they will do, of course next time I won't buy any pre-order anymore (as I won't pre-buy anything from Synchron series after being disappointed by Synchron Strings I).
Very simple, isn't it? 😊
YES! What about the new features? 12 pages of upgrade fee frustration, but will there be a marvelous plugin manager?? VST3 support? ASIO guard solution? Which value for money 😉
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@Remoteguy aka MonsterousWierd[b]issimo[/b] You are sounding somehow frustrated!? I am not complaining. I am someone who acts instead of complaining. That is why I was reacting by pushing the button at Bestservice instead here. And the deal was ok. BTW making good deals is a matter of timing and Charme. Having the right girl sitting at the right place can save you tons of money 😉 ... and LAJ has ... ;))
This is very good. Maybe you should have this girl get VEPro 7 for you since you would rather cry about the price? Why are you always coming with VE Pro 7? All from Softube for „a price like a joke“ was a much better experience! ... ;b
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He bought VE Pro 6 with a discount via the software package bundle. I'm an idiot, I forgot to do that with VE Pro 7.
Hello David,
BING! That's right.
I combined the Entry-Discount with the Package Discount. And no you are no idiot, because this is no more possible now. Another disadvantage for us Package-candidates.
I bought Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 with a Bestservice Discount for 71,00 €. But this is because I am a pretty good Softube-customer and bought a lot of effects & modular-modules (Clouds, Braids, Rings etc.) in 2018 and 2019.
Best,
LarsHello Lars
Thanks! I'm glad I didn't miss any discount.
Best,
David
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Why does VE Pro 6 not boot up in logic Pro X??? Either the stand-alone version or the plug-in version?
Thank you,
Roy
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Why does VE Pro 6 not boot up in logic Pro X??? Either the stand-alone version or the plug-in version?
Thank you,
Roy
This really should be a separate post to get more traction. Camping on a thread ain't cool.
Besides there's only one version. One is a client and the other is a server. RTFM.
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Ahhhh. No big trick, you just pressed the right button..... So you got a special deal and are complaining because that same deal isn't being offered with this version. Ridiculous.
YAY! Im not the only one around here who thinks the VSL community has been disengenuous about this.
Facts dont care about your feelings, yes, it even applies outside of politics.
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Ahhhh. No big trick, you just pressed the right button..... So you got a special deal and are complaining because that same deal isn't being offered with this version. Ridiculous.
YAY! Im not the only one around here who thinks the VSL community has been disengenuous about this. Facts dont care about your feelings, yes, it even applies outside of politics. It is the common way to reward people who are loyal customers. The VSL has stopped rewarding (the way they did it) since about 1 year with the new sales structure. As I said ... I am reacting. Normally I always buy Vouchers in December. Last year I did not. And when all my Vouchers are redeemed (which will take quite some time) I will finish here. One reason for that is that I make much better deals at other firms like Spitfire, Audiobro and Softube. And yes ... I am making these deals behind closed doors 😉 ... outside of politics. YAY!
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YAY! Im not the only one around here who thinks the VSL community has been disengenuous about this. Facts dont care about your feelings, yes, it even applies outside of politics.
I don't know what politics has to do with this, and we're definitely not talking about science. We're talking about marketing, and the only 'facts' are sales figures - and the fact is that there will be numerous users who will not up/downgrade with the current pricing structure.
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YAY! Im not the only one around here who thinks the VSL community has been disengenuous about this. Facts dont care about your feelings, yes, it even applies outside of politics.
I don't know what politics has to do with this, and we're definitely not talking about science. We're talking about marketing, and the only 'facts' are sales figures - and the fact is that there will be numerous users who will not up/downgrade with the current pricing structure.Ben Shapiro, a popular political commentator in the United States, coined the phrase, facts dont care about your feelings.
The real fact is, numerous users will choose to upgrade, numerous users will not.
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Hi @Paul (if I may),
I suggest the following price plan:
VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129
For each additional license: € 29
VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399
For each additional license: € 59
Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)
or each additional license: € 19
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299
For each additional license: € 39
I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
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Yes, I will complain straight away - you mentioned subscription.
any company that uses subscription based licensing, I will run as far away as possible,If VSL goes subscription based, I will never buy ever again.
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Hi @Paul (if I may),
I suggest the following price plan:
VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129
For each additional license: € 29
VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399
For each additional license: € 59
Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)
or each additional license: € 19
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299
For each additional license: € 39
I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
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Hi @Paul (if I may),
I suggest the following price plan:
VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129
For each additional license: € 29
VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399
For each additional license: € 59
Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)
or each additional license: € 19
Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299
For each additional license: € 39
I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here?
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Yes, I will complain straight away - you mentioned subscription.any company that uses subscription based licensing, I will run as far away as possible, If VSL goes subscription based, I will never buy ever again.
It’s very flexible and you can buy a perpetual license if you please.
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Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?
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Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?Well, there we are back with "forever" (which is a nice thougt) & the question: What happens when Herb T. retires? 😉
In other words: How long is forever?
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