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    @popmann said:

    So, yeah...if  it's the difference in 2gb addressable and 2.8gb addressable, it's settled--I'll replace all the RAM in the computer.

    You'll probably fin that it's the difference between 1.5GB and 2.8GB. In fact, I can load more than 2.8 now that I'm using Vienna Ensemble, but I like to play safe.

    DG

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    @popmann said:

    BTW...I've read the 3gb switch will be harmful to Gigastudio2. Does harmful mean it has less kernel level RAM to address...or that it doesn't work correctly?

    I really need to load GigaPiano and the Bosendorfer290 for my acoustic piano. If it's gonna screw it up all together, I'll either have to budget for Ivory or keep it as is.

    The /3gig switch will almost certainly screw with GS. However, using GVI might be your best bet on this one. First thing to try is checking that the /3gig even works on your system in a reliable manner.

    DG


  • Thanks for changing the username, CM.

    I don't have the GVI, FWIW.  Before I would buy that, I would probably just buy Ivory to use for piano, since piano is the only major use. I guesss I do have some drum samples I like...but, I've also got BFD and decent hardware, so...

    I'll order up some RAM and cross my fingers.


  • FYI...resolution:

    I installed 4gb of RAM. Ran the 3GB switch w/ the USERVA=3328. Virtual memory is turned OFF.

    I can now get Cubase/VSL to load about 2.7-2.8gb of sample buffers, so, yes--C4 IS large address aware.

    On top of that, Gigastudio, which uses kernel memory, can still load both my Bosendorfer 290 and (yamaha) Gigapiano. Although, it chokes if you load much of anything else on top of them. So, no need to buy a user mode piano instrument. Giga will get me by until I find a nice Yammy U1/U3 to put down here.

    I did, for the record, first install 3gb total...but, while the 3gb switch did make Cubase/VSL "see" more RAM to load into, it didn't really change anything in the real world--it maxxed at about 1.7GB of sample buffers. Considering my OS boots into 110mb, and C4 uses about 100mb overhead, this factors correctly--the 3gb switch doesn't really work unless you've got more than 3 GB, even with the USERVA option set to 2.3 or 2.5gb, which are the options I tried. Like I said-it does make it "see" more, but it can't seem to utilize more than an untweaked default memory allocation.

    Oh, yeah...this also dispells the rumor that the 3gb switch only works with XP Pro, as I'm running Home. I've long told people that Microsoft said that it would work with either version of XP, but people didn't seem to believe me--proof is in da puddin'.


  • Hi guys...it's been a while... [:)]

    popmann, if you're able to load both of those pianos with the 3GB switch turned on, I would bet that you have a separate graphics card in that machine which uses its own memory...? On the tests I've made with the /3GB switch on machines with shared memory for the graphics driver I couldn't load much before GS choked.

    Regarding the rumor that the /3GB switch wouldn't work with XP Home...it's false nowadays. If I remember correctly the support for 3GB in Home Edition came with an update, maybe SP1.

    /Mattias


  • Rule #1 (for me) when building a PC system for ANY use...don't get a shared memory architecture video solution. Yes...256mb of RAM on a fanless ATI 9600. Even for a little web surfer, I've found integrated video (meaning the shared RAM, GPU-less on board variety) will cause noticable GUI drag--compared to a 10 year old graphics card (not that you could actually put a 10 year old card in a new PC, but...). 


  • Hello

    How much samples can be loaded (in %) on a 8GB slave machine (64-bit), when using the complete SE Plus Extended VI (and using VE3 ?)

    Thanks

    Fred


  • here's the math: 133.370 samples x 64 KB per sample need 8.1 GB memory

    since one could load up to appr. 7 GB used memory on a 8GB windows 64bit machine this would be a theoretical value of 85%

     

    but: in a test i couldn't manage to get more than 3,9 GB load with the special edition only which has already 74.860 samples (or i've simply been too dumb to find the missing patches/matrices), so this means you can load every single patch and matrix from the Special Edition bundle into such a machine.

     

    of course this wouldn't make any sense for working on a real arrangement, one would load a much more selective preset ...

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • You also have to take the VE instances and VI's memory consumption into account.

    Each VE is about 45mb and for each intrument instance you add its another 16mb - not much but it adds up. You typically end up with maybe 4 VE's with a total of say 50 instruments: Thats 1 Gb.

      


  • Thanks!

    While I know It doesn't make any sense to have every sample loaded, I just love it when everything is ready to play.

    But even at 70-75% of all SE loaded it's pretty cool.

    Fred


  • Quick memory question:

    I have a slave PC (3GB RAM, XP Home, 32 bit) running Plogue Bidule as a host with the 3GB switch enabled. I am currently loading 2.7GB of samples into several instances of GVI within Plogue. If I upgraded to 6 or 8GB would I be abe to load an extra 2.7GB into VE3 instances within Bidule, as I noticed that VE seems to occupy a different process in the RAM usage? Or would I have to upgrade to XP64 to do this?

    Dom 


  • You won't be  load more than 2.7-2.8GB of anything in XP 32bit.


    DG

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    @DG said:

    You won't be  load more than 2.7-2.8GB of anything in XP 32bit.
     

    Thanks Daryl.  So that means anything combined or 2.7GB per process?


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    @DG said:

    You won't be  load more than 2.7-2.8GB of anything in XP 32bit.
     

    Thanks Daryl.  So that means anything combined or 2.7GB per process?

    In total.

    DG


  • Thanks. 64 bit upgrade is unavoidable then.... 

    Dom 


  • I have a question - looks like you guys might know the answer, forgive me if it is dumb or has been asked before - I am using Ensemble Pro in a 32bit, XP machine, using a laptop (same 32bit OS) as a slave. If I were to buy an additional computer, but Win7 64 bit, could I run an instance of VE Pro in there @ 64 bit and still stay at 32 bit on the main (XP) machine.? I supect the answer may be no but it would be awesome if it was yes :) Thanks, Mike Nuendo 5.1, VI Pro, VE Pro XP Pro (32 bit), 9.2 Ghz Dual core AMD

  • Hi Mike, 

    you can even mix different OS´s with VE PRO, as it works cross-platform. You can also run a 32-bit and 64-bit Server instance of VE PRO simultaneously on the same computer. 

    Best, 

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hi Paul, Woah ! That's amazing - so in a 32 bit setup, I can just add a 64bit Wn7 PC as a slave, therefore able to use all that extra ram without changing my setup in the main machine. Well cool :) I have had VE Pro a couple of weeks now and am very impressed, it's like FX Teleport on steroids. Heartiest congratulations. Thanks, Best wishes, Mike

  • sounds like it works very well.ok ,got it .still got some problems

  • I am a newby having trouble with CPU. Read the first few pages of this thread which looked useful and now my head hurts. a lot. I have been considering buying a new Mac even so as to get more RAM and superior powers but this thread seems to be suggesting that even if I get more RAM Vienna Instruments can't use it..?huh? I don't want to fork out for a new puter then it not work to fix my CPU problems... please can someone explain the headlines in english? thanks! (Macbook pro, 2.3GHZ, 4 GB)