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  • vienna instruments with this controller. This is unique!

    I am a director of a very high level childrens percussion ensemble who uses two keyboard controllers call malletkats.

    http://www.alternatemode.com/malletkat.shtml

    We perform large orchestral pieces live (Pines of rome, Estansia, Star Wars, etc)
    that are arranged by established writers in the chicago area. I use four players on two malletkats to play string, trumpet, French horn, and trombone section parts. All other parts are performed on xylophones, marimbas, bells, and other percussion instruments accustically.

    I have been using the Pro edition with gigastudio 3.0 for about a year and have had decent success with it. but since the intro of vienna instruments, I have been watching the forums and trying to determine if this product would work with my malletkats. Clearly it is designed for keyboard players.
    My players hit the malletkat with a mallet and the midi signal is sent immediately.

    In gigastudio, I stack a staccato sound and a sustain sound together. When the player plays a note and holds the pedal down he gets a sustained sound (along with the staccato sound of course). If not, he gets a short sound. This works reasonable well but obviously it has quite a few drawbacks as well.

    Is there anyway the VI could work? speed control would be a god send if it would work with the malletkats. Especially with string sounds. Can the sustain pedal trigger the correct sample instead of holding down the keys of the keyboard?

    These kids and this group are really special to me and I would really like to find a way to make this work. Any thoughts??

  • I'm a percussionist as well and use a MalletKat for inputting some things with the VSL Pro Ed. Do you find that the latency issue when working with samples becomes difficult? The MalletKat response is so fast that I find I really notice the latency when working with most samples.

    Do you by any chance have any tricks you're using to compensate?

    Best,
    Jason

    P.S. I grew up in the Chicago area. Midwesterners are going to take over the world one day! [[;)]]

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    @JJP said:

    P.S. I grew up in the Chicago area. Midwesterners are going to take over the world one day! [[;)]]


    Another WGN-Bears-Bulls-Berghoff-Carson's-Field's-AireCrowne-Gino'sEast-Ray Rayner-Garfiled Goose-Romberg Rabbit fan and VSL user at your service.... (does anyone from Chicago even remember Riverview?)

    For some performance applications, a user patch might have to be created that will allow for an fp-sus. I'm not sure it's worth the cost of Vienna Instruments just for that-- it can be created in PE and SE.

  • Riverview! Of course! What was the name of that famously fast rollercoaster: The Cyclone? Someone would get their head lopped off now and then as I recall.

    Bears, Cubs and Sox fan. Sayers Butkis, Banks, Santo, Williams, Beckert, Kessenger and Tommy John (before Dodger defection.)

    Barrington Ill., rocks.

    what the heck forum is this anyway?

  • It is true that there is a latency issue with samples but the way we deal with it is to put our best players on the synth parts. then we teach them to play on top of the beat in the same way that section percussion players must play in the orchestra. Then our younger players (who really don't follow a conductor anyway) simply play ensemble using the malletkat players as a guide to follow. It takes a bit of time but it seems to work out quite well.

  • thanks for responding JWL. What I have done is to stack two samples: short staccato and a sustain in gigastudio. Is that what you are referring to as a user patch?

    I use pro edition & gigastudio 3.2

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    @JWL said:


    Ray Rayner-Garfield Goose


    Wow! There are two names I haven't heard in at least 15 years! [:D]

  • JJP: we use the tascam fw-1884 which seems to work quite well is surpressing the latancy issues. Hope these replys help!