Herb,
of couse. But they won´t play longer then 10 minutes until it crashes or has
dopouts or problems in finding and loading samples.
I don´t have a ram problem. I have a: get it working at all problem.
I´m not pushing it to the limits, max. load is 900Mb-1.1 Gb.(700-500mb free).
But I need double the ram for 1st. and 2nd Strings !!

@Another User said:

problems in finding and loading samples

this is something what usually points to a configuration problem of the machine ... are there by chance any other *tweaks* especially regarding memory applied to the system? (to have a pagefile or not should make no difference - we have virtual memory turned off on most computers with 2GB RAM or more)
christian

@Another User said:

But I need double the ram for 1st. and 2nd Strings !!

The Vienna Instruments do not support shared memory at the moment.
So if you load the same patches into different instances you are adding new samples to RAM.
At the moment we are testing an update here, which will offer shared memory.

best
Herb

btw, searching through our support emails i've found you also had troubles to extract the files from the pro edition (installation stopped with a CRC error) - the solution was to copy the files to the harddisk and install from there (what has been successfull). such errors turned up from time to time using W98 (related to the method W98 reads files from DVD/CD).
have you tried this procedure also for the ViennaInstruments installation?

and now another thing comes into my mind: of course all this _can_ be also the result of bad or incompatible memory modules ... especially certified frequencies and timing should meet the specs of the mainboard.

christian

Have you tried this?

1. Download and run the small utility from http://www.musikbanken.se/gigastudio/memopt.htm">http://www.musikbanken.se/gigastudio/memopt.htm
2. If you like you can check your current settings by pressing the “Get current settings” button.
3. Run the utility and press the button “Revert to default settings”.
4. Reboot the machine.


I'm betting this will improve your situation.

Best,
Jay

Thank You all for help.
1.Memory Modules are ok. (Workin with Gigastudio3, loaded untill limit, is fine ).Maybe it´s "Forte" that crashes. Which buffersize, (Rme digi9652,P4 2.8Gh,2Gb, XP with service pack1-because of board and Gigastudio)? Any special things with forte ? What host ist the best for VI (I cant have 4xCubase.....)
2.Still can´t install Woodwinds I. Copied the files onto Mac (this drive reads everything so far), started installer on PC and installed (network) untill same point.....as if the bad file were copied exactly.

bernhard, i have to admit to be kind of clueless regarding this strange phaenomen - a file is not *somehow* bad, it is bad or not. also it is possible a few DVDs have quality problems (eg. scratches), but highly improbable they have it at the same spot on the DVD.

i'm still thinking we have to search for a not so obvious reason for this behaviour - sounds like something gets *filled up* until a certain level and then refuses. please keep in mind memory is used a little bit over 50% only with gigastudio, so a problem *behind this border* would not have shown up so far. can't guarantee for forte of course, but it has been tested here and has shown to be stable.

are you saying you _can_ copy the files to harddrive and if you run the installer from there the same thing happens? how does your memory and CPU behave during the installation and when the problem occures?

christian

Just for info.
You can install the library on any computer and after installing you can movie/copy the installed sample datas where ever you want.
So you could try to install on your MAC and than copying the datas to any of your windows PCs.

best
Herb

Thank You All,
I spend this day again in testing.
I don´t have time to spend another week in testing, why
1.Installer on mac does not work and therefore i cant install and copy.
2.My PCs cannot read Your DVDs
3.VI or Forte or whatever crashes
Fact is: I used Pro edition for the last years with Gigastudio 3 and had never problems. And believe me: All You can buy is also installed and used. I run 4Gigas with 65%load(and sometimes Bösendorfer parallel on the same PC!!) and a Mac, pushed to limit with Pro Edition and a lot of other stuff.
For me there is no reason to switch to a (maybe only for me) not working Setup. I´m not a Betatester, I have to work. As soon as You have a easy to install and working Version, I´ll be the first to buy it. In the meantime i give it back, because it´s to much money to wait untill...
Sorry

@Another User said:

1.Installer on mac does not work and therefore i cant install and copy.

You've used the library-installer on the DVDs for the OSX installation?
Please download the updated version from our user area.
Vienna Instruments Library Installer OSX PPC 1.03

Here is the direct link for download:
http://www.vsl.co.at/user/download1.asp?Lang=1&TopNav=2&SubNav=1&Menu=18&Detail=0&action=

(One of the VIs has to be registered to see the download link there)

Independently from your purchase desicion, it would interesting and very helpful for us to know, if the content install would finally work on your MAC OSX system.

thanks
Herb

Yes, I used Your and synchrosoft´s new Insallers. It does not open itself. Nothing happens.
I tryed all things, forum users told me: Giga reset, special tools, etc.

Hello Bernhard,

were do you live?

Munich, why ?

Munich, hm.
As far as I know Music Shop at Best Service (our main distributor) offers a kind of "full installation service". I don't know at the moment who is managing this at Music Shop, but if you like we could check this out for you.

best
Herb

Yes,
I know, but they have a lot to do for "Frankfurter Musikmesse", like You.
I have my "Special Question guy" at Musicshop for many years, but he didn´t have time jet to check everything in detail. VI is to new.
My ploblem is: I have to start working on a moviescore in 1 week and I have to get used to a new setup to get my mind free for composing. I cannot change during work.

For the record, I use Forte on a PC, and use VI on a MAC with OSX, and the installations went fine with the exception of the woodwinds on the Mac. I then tried reinstalling the woodwinds again and it worked fine.

I have had no crashes with Forte on a P4 3.2 with 2g memory.

No crashes on a G5 Dual 2 gig with 2.5 gig.

Knock on wood...[;)]

TH

Bernhard,

plese send me a Email to 1mapson@gmx.de.

Hi Bernhard!

First of all I have to tell you that I do understand your situation and that you should still keep working with GS3 until the VI is ready for us!

I've been experiencing the SAME problems than you. Except that I could copy the whole library on my pc.

The thing is that if you install VI on a system where GS3 is already there, except some big crashes! So, just install a new operating system. It works way better than before.

I had the same questions than you : how can you expect us (composers) to work with bounce? I can't bounce each instrument one by one to get my memory free! It's absurd! Gigastudio was running as hell for me. Having more and more use of the articulations, I needed more and more memory...more pc then...

THEN I started to think : those guys at vsl know their job! It's impossible to think that they screw it up that much! So (with the help of Paul Steinbauer, thx man!) I started to think in a different way to write music with VI.

I've succeeded to launch 20 VI on 1 computer (I was so happy!!!...what the!) using Vstack. Then I started to write music in a way I couldn't think about when I was using GS : 1 VI = 1 instrument or group.
So I could have the whole articulations I needed for V1, V2, Violas, Cellos, Bass with only 5 VI! That was great! Of course, as I was writing my score I had to load and optimize the memory usage. But believe me, to obtain such result with GS, I would have needed something like 3 (maybe more) midi ports (16 tracks for each). Then, if I felt bad with a line I reseted the VI and change the line....optimize (ok..that takes time).

BUT after all, my pc wasn't strong enough or the VI is not as optimized as it could. I starting to have some electronic glinches when too many notes were played.....so I thought : ok! I'll wait.

I know they are working on dual proc 64 bits and I think I will buy the best configuration they will recommend. Today I'm still working with GS3.

I just hope I won't have to wait too long to use the VI as it should work!