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  • best way to build multi-player section

    Hello,

    I am working on a project that requires the sound of more than one trumpet player per part - similar to a concert band or symphonic band.  As an example, I would need three players on trumpet 1, three players on trumpet 2 and three players on trumpet 3.  Using Synchron Brass, my plan is to use the following:

    First trumpet part:

    Player 1

    Player 2 

    Player 1 or 2 again but somehow varied, or slightly detuned)

    And the I would do exactly the same for the second and third trumpet parts as well. Total of 9 players - three on each of the three parts.   I would play in each part separately to add to the humanization of three players playing the same part - rather than copy and pasting.

    I realize that Player 1 and Player 2 are two entirely different players and sample sets, and will work beautifully as two trumpets playing in unison.  My question is, what should I do to the second instance of Trumpet 1 or Trumpet 2 (whichever one I decide to double) to keep from phasing, or having the identical tone layered on the same notes?  Should I change the master tuning to a few cents sharp or flat to offset on the second instance?   Are there an other things I can do to help create a truly different sound for the "third" player on the part, even thought it will be either player 1 or 2 again?

    I know synchron brass has a four trumpet and six trumpet preset, and they are great for certain instances, but for this particular application, I really need the sound of three (different) players on a part and just want to make sure I am doing everything I can to offset the sound enough when I double either synchrony player 1 or player 2 to create player 3.

    Thank you for any advice you may have.

    Mike


  • Hi! I think you are heavily overthinking this. Use the a4 patch and reduce its intensity. The difference between 3 or 4 trumpets in a large scoring stage is not significantly hearable in the context of a full orchestra, and you always have Timbre Adjust to alter your trumpets further. Apply a bit of humanization (delay, intonation) and panning - and you are good to go.

    Don't forget that an a3 section of trumpet players will play as such when performing the same line. They hear each other and perform in a homogenous way. An a4 patch will get you much closer to realistic & natural results than multiple individually recorded sample instruments.

    Best, Andreas


    VSL Team | Product Specialist & Media Editing
  • Thank you, Andreas!