For most hosts, there was simply no reason to support VST3 until recently. For most plugins, it will also not make a difference if you use one or the other.
Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
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For most plugins, it will also not make a difference if you use one or the other.
The question isn't if there is any difference or if one is better than the other. For most users, there will soon be no choice. Since VST2 is deprecated, developers will more and more release VST3 plugins only.
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There is a solution that I bench-tested today, that will enable VST3 FX & VI plugins to be hosted within VEPro7.
This solution will allow you to host multi-MIDI input & Multi-audio outputs, such as reqiuired when hosting multiple instruments in Kontackt 7 within VEPro7.
This solution also offers Delay Compensation and up to 16x oversampling.
You can save all parameters in the DAW session, as you would nornmally do.
All for $59.00 and great customer support too !!
Check it out with the demo (does not allow session saving in demo mode, but it works 100% for me in the full version)
https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst-au-rtas-aax-wrapper/
Problem solved !!
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Austin4098, have you managed to load Kontakt 7 (VST3) into DDMF's Metaplugin and run it all ok in VEP?
I inserted the latest demo DDMF Superplugin into the latest VEP (in macOS 12.6), but Kontakt 7 (VST3) was notable by its absence in Superplugin's browser. Kontakt 7 (VST3) works just fine in my Cubase 12.
As I understand DDMF's blurb on their site, Metaplugin and Superplugin are supposed to have the same format-wrapping capabilities - though I may be wrong about that.
I've used other DDMF products and find them to have some ingenuity here and there, but overall of somewhat hobbyist/amateur quality. A while back I deleted all of them from my system because of their unreliability. Not the sort of products I personally would want to recommend to professionals whose livelihood depends on pro quality equipment.
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I've used other DDMF products and find them to have some ingenuity here and there, but overall of somewhat hobbyist/amateur quality.
That is absurd. DDMF make terrific plugins. MetaPlugin is awesome. Happy to see VSL working with them on discounting.
If you want something free, I suggest KushView Element which can also host VST3. Its free as donation ware right now.
https://kushview.net/element/download/
'I don't have Kontakt7 right now in order to test it in either product and at times Kushview has had some issues with transport sync...but sometimes it works great. But I still think DDMF MetaPlugin is probably your best bet for temporarily dealing with Kontakt7 until VSL can get VePro up to speed with VST3
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I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here who wants to hear from members who have actually tried out one or more workarounds for using Kontakt 7 (VST3) in VEP.
We're not short of opinions here and that's all good. But shouting from the sidelines without actually knowing - or at the very least having real and relevant experience - of what you're talking about isn't going to help us move forward, is it? We need more than mere hubris if we're to seek out and find a convenient and useful workaround while waiting for VEP 8. We do not need need an internecine battle of mere opinions.
Without pointing at any member of this forum, I'm reminded of a recent televised court trial in Connecticut dealing with a notorious case of defamation, in which the jury awarded the plaintiffs almost a billion dollars in compensatory damages. During the trial the judge admonished the defendant thus:
Defendant: "I believe what I said was true."
Judge: "Yes, you believe everything you say is true but it isn't. Your beliefs do not make something true. That is ... [laughing sardonically] ... that is what we're doing here! Just because you claim to think something is true does not make it true. It does not protect you. It is not allowed.
Of course this forum is not a trial court, but nor is it a million miles apart from what a trial court generally does - both endeavour to seek out enough truth to get the job done reliably.
On Kushview Element (v0.46)
I've taken the time briefly to investigate one of the recommendations stated in this thread (by a member whose name is in the list of technical contributors to this particular product) - Kushview Element. The version numbering given on the website suggests this product is still not out of the beta-testing stage.
Element (VST2) loads into a VEP channel but the GUI window is far too short to show more than one or two items in the map, and I could not find any way of re-sizing the window. Element (AU) also loads but in this case the GUI window is properly sized and can easlly be re-sized. However, after having the stand-alone Element app scan for plugins, then inserting the Element (AU) plugin into VEP and loading Kontakt 7 (VST3) into Element's map, selecting any NI factory preset for one of the NI factory library instruments resulted in my computer hanging and being unresponsive. Each time, after several minutes I had to Force Quit VEP.
Moreover, the Kushview website clearly states - quite honestly I believe - various let-out clauses indicating the experimental nature of the product. Also, Kushview closed their webstore in August, stating that "We simply do not have the resources to offer timely support and maintenance."
I'm all for experimental tech designs, but only in suitable circumstances. In this forum I'm pretty sure we have not only professional musicians/composers and music/composition hobbyists but also tech hobbyists. I'm willing to bet that the musician pros and hobbyists here are not nearly as willing as tech hobbyists are to faff around and struggle with experimental tech products. Surely, recommending any experimental product here should be at least accompanied by some indication of what kind of circumstances it's best suited for.
I do not recommend Kushview Element for the purpose of operating Kontakt 7 (VST3) in VEP. Tech hobbyists don't need any opinion from me and no doubt will follow their own whims and take their own chances.
