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  • Synchron Brass Sound Sets and Expression Maps for Sibelius, Dorico and Cubase

    Hello!

    We have made Dorico and Cubase Expression Maps and expanded our "VE SY Winds" Sibelius Sound Sets for our new Synchron Brass library. Registered users can download these settings in the MyVSL area under Notation related.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/Notation_Related

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Andi!

    Is there hope that we'll get Dorico EMs for SYz Solo Strings and SYz Dim Strings some day?


    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • Hello Bill!

    There is always hope. ;-)

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Andi, thank you very much for the new maps!

    With the strong support VSL is giving to Dorico and the new series, I'm starting to think that I don't need my own maps, and could only replace some CC (like Attack, Release and Filter) in your default presets. A lot of work saved!

    Just out of curiosity: in your maps for Dorico you went for Dorico's Conditions to select the staccato type. Should we prefer Dorico's Conditions for note length, or is the Synchron Player Auto patches a more reliable way to automatically select articulations? Is there a difference in their behavior? Is the one more powerful/flexible than the other?

    Paolo


  • Hello Paolo!

    Doricos note length parameter in the expression maps has the advantage that the durations (and articulation selection) are know in advance. The Auto-Speed option in the Synchron Player can only react to MIDI signals it gets. So the articulation selection is always based on the previous note.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Andi, thank you for explaining. Good to know! I hadn't considered the time dimension!

    Paolo


  • Hi Andi,

    I am trying to switch between longs Regular and Con fortissimo with Sibelius. I have looked at the online manuals but cant find it. 

    Thanks,

    Dave


  • Hello Dave!

    The Sibelius sound set triggers the "con fortissimo" type of the long notes. There is no command to trigger the "regular" type. With Dorico or Sibelius in most cases you shouldn't need the regular type, because you can trigger the lower velocity layers anyway with dynamic marks. "Con fortissimo" just means that a fortissimo layer is included for high velocities.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Ok Thanks Andi,

    I am having some problems getting the trumpets (4 or 6) to switch properly.

    I have a solo trumpet on one staff (using Trumpet in C, with sound set VE SY winds > trumpet) this works fine.

    I then have 6 trumpets on another staff (using Trumpets in C a6, with sound set VE SY winds > trumpet ensemble). I can't get this to work. I then tried trumpets in C a3, still no luck.

    The only way after some experimenting was using Trumpet in Bb for the 6 trumpets to switch correctly.

     

    Thanks,

    Dave

       


  • Hello Dave!

    All the Sibelius trumpet ensemble instruments that you have tried are working fine with the Synchron Brass trumpet ensembles here.

    It can have different reasons why articulation changes don't work as expected or instruments play on the wrong channel. Did you go through the Troubleshooting section of "Sibelius Integration" tutorial yet? All possible reasons that come to my mind are listed there.
    https://www.vsl.info/tutorials/guides/sibelius-integration/troubleshooting

    If you can't find a solution there, please send the following screenshots and a reference to this forum thread to support@vsl.co.at.
    - Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments" menu
    - Sibelius mixer
    - Sibelius Playback Devices menu
    - Sibelius Manual Sound Sets page of all loaded devices
    - Vienna Ensemble showing one of the instruments that doesn't work correctly

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • The Dorico Synchron Template isn't loading ensemble instruments properly. This is what I get. Manually loading works fine

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    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • Hello Bill!

    Synchron Brass ensembles get loaded properly here. It seems to me that you have loaded a playback template that uses SYzd Special Edition Brass instruments. If the problem remains, please let me know, which playback template you have loaded exactly.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hi Andi,

    I deleted all the SY template and installed fresh. Same problem with ensembles. Solo instruments are fine. I loaded the SY Brass Playback Template that looks like this:

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    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • Hi Bill!

    I remember now. I have fixed this problem after the release of the playback template for Synchron Brass. The fix will be included in the next update, which hopefully will come soon. In the meantime, please manually load the correct preset in Synchron Player. Sorry for the inconvinience that this may have caused.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Andi!

    Will any of the 3 presets work?


    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • Hello Bill!

    I recommend using the Velocity version of the presets with Dorico (and Sibelius).

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Interesting. I would have assume one of the other two...


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    @andi said:

    I recommend using the Velocity version of the presets with Dorico (and Sibelius).

    Hi Andi, is there a reason for this? I would have assumed the CC1 version would have been more versatile (and that's the configuration I’m currently using).

    Paolo


  • Hi Bill and Paolo!

    The Dorico Expression Maps for Synchron Brass control dynamics via velocity and CC2. With the velocity presets loaded, you can have VelXF turned on or off. VelXF is assigned to CC2, so both settings will work. The VelXF presets have this fader assigned to CC1.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hello Bill!

    There's a new version of the VSL for Dorico installer online. The Synchron Brass ensembles should now get loaded correctly with the corresponding playback templates.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/Notation_Related

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library