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  • BillB
    BillB

    Having them on the iLok is one thing, but activating them is a separate step, which is why I asked :)

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
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    @belkina said:

    I have not received the email yet, even though I just purchased Synchron WW a few weeks ago.

    When will I get it?

    Hi Alan, I think you need to have made a purchase after the change over to get the green light, otherwise it could be a few weeks.

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • S
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    Yes, I understand the difference between having them in your account versus activated on a dongle...and indeed, all my licenses are definitely activated.

    I am open to any and all suggestions. This has left me with an unusable system.

    Thanks Bill
  • M
    M

    In the middle of downloading my content. What's disappointing is that on a Mac there's no special icon for Vienna Assistant. It's a non-descript looking piece of paper with what looks like the letter A - I think this might just be the generic Apple application icon.
  • H
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    I'll jump into this thread here rather than starting a new one :)

    I have two products: Big Bang Orchestra and Great Rieger Organ. Both have transferred successfully to my iLok account. 

    With Big Bang I have two activations available. I have used one to my desktop PC and the other is unusued. There is no option to activate to iLok Cloud. 

    With Great Rieger Organ there is only one activation and this is only to iLok Cloud. Why is there only one activation and no 'activate to computer' option? 

     

    EDIT: I have stupid 'Covid positive for three days' brain. Seems like all of the Syncron stuff is Cloud only. IGNORE ME FOR I AM A FOOL! :D
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    @sloughcreek said:

    Yes, I understand the difference between having them in your account versus activated on a dongle...and indeed, all my licenses are definitely activated.

    I am open to any and all suggestions. This has left me with an unusable system.

    Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Synchron Player yet? Worth posting some screenshots?

    Failing that - and painful as it might be - you could uninstall and revert to the eLicenser-versions of the software if you need to get working...
  • PaulP
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    Hello everybody, 

    Thanks for posting here... We're doing our best to keep the overview 😊

    Of course fellow users will be able to help as well, but you're always on the safe side with a mail to our support team, with a detailed description of the troubles: support@vsl.co.at!

    We'll get through those teething troubles very quickly, new updates already in the pipeline!

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • D
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    Hi Paul,

    I have a gigabit fibre connection. Some of the downloads are comming in at 100-150 kB/s. I have a lot to download so this wont work. When I first started some of the downloads were at 50 to 60 MB/s. 

    I have test the speed of my connection and get full gigabit from my provider. Is this happening because your servers are overloaded.

    Thanks,

    Dave
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    OK, so the speeds seem to be back up again, but they fluctuate from very low (150-300 kB/s) to very high 

    at (20-30 MB/s). 

    Dave
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
    Hi Dave, The spikes are probably the downloads picking up one by one. Servers are busy bit we‘re content with the overall performance. Thanks for your patience! Best, Paul
    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi Dave,

    The spikes are probably the downloads picking up one by one.
    Servers are busy bit we‘re content with the overall performance.

    Thanks for your patience!

    Best, Paul
    Something to add to this if I may - it may not be a single-hop from VSL to a person's home computer. And if somewheres along the way the path goes through a satellite that will factor into the download speeds. Also some isp's will throttle down speeds as well.
  • N
    N

    Hi

    Since i moved my licenses to iLok (cloud), Synchron Player takes ages to load (sometimes 5 minutes!).

    I also noticed an increase of 5% of CPU usage for the PACE License Service process during the loading, so i think it is something related.

    Can someone help me? 
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    @Nuno2013 said:

    Hi

    Since i moved my licenses to iLok (cloud), Synchron Player takes ages to load (sometimes 5 minutes!).

    I also noticed an increase of 5% of CPU usage for the PACE License Service process during the loading, so i think it is something related.

    Can someone help me? 

    Get a real physical iLok and ditch Cloud anything. It's not reliable. Also what are your system specs?
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    @Nuno2013 said:

    Hi

    Since i moved my licenses to iLok (cloud), Synchron Player takes ages to load (sometimes 5 minutes!).



    Are you opening an old project? As that's why it might take longer, as in the background, all eLicenser presets are being transferred to the iLok version. When you save the project and open it next time, it should be loading as fast as before.

    Best,
    Erik
  • N
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    I thought the idea of moving to iLok was to get rid of the dongle :)

    My specs are:

    CPU: i7 9750h
    RAM: 64Gb
    Internal SSD
  • N
    N

    No, it also happen when opening in a blank project..
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    @Nuno2013 said:

    I thought the idea of moving to iLok was to get rid of the dongle 😊

    My specs are:

    CPU: i7 9750h
    RAM: 64Gb
    Internal SSD

    CPU speed? Operating System? Have you optimized your computer for music work? Do you have anything else running on the computer?

    You NEVER want to trust anything Cloud related as the performance can really vary from semi-ok to downright miserable. iLok 3's are quite a bit smaller than the iLok 2. Sooner or later you're going to need a physical iLok for other software - trust me on that as not every developer allows iLok Cloud or iLok machine.
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    Ya Patience,

    When I woke up this moring everthing was installed! I love the new managment software for the libraries. The move feature is great when you have multiple SSDs and have to move libraries arround for varoius reasons.

    Dave
  • N
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    Ok, i found the culprit for slow loading times: AVG antivirus.

    Now, Synchron Player starts in the blink of an eye!

    Thanks for your help ;)
  • K
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    Hi, I've read all 14 pages of the thread. My question for Vienna, is how is this benefitting us? iLok gets new clients and spike in high profit USB keys, Vienna gets a better authorization service than they had, and a spike in sales for "legacy" license upgrades. So what do we get? So far I'm looking at $600 for 6x new iloks (or risking my computer security online) and 6x upgrades from "legacy" VEP 5/6. And to salt the wound, the Vi Pro Player I paid hundreds of dollars to buy and upgrade, is now free. And my MIR Pro and 6 Room packs won't work with iLok yet. VEP 6 was out for about a year or so before 7 was released, that's really pushing the noting of "legacy". So this transition is costing over 600$, and nullified several hundred or prior purchases. Veinna and iLok get a cash grab. What's in it for us? No vouchers? Not even a free sample set? Nothing? I get why its good from a business perspective, but am failing to see any benefits for the people who fund the operations, the customer. Can someone please tell me what benefits we gain from this transition. Vienna surely has considered us, they gave always had good products and services. What am I missing? It seems to me like Vienna is using the customers to fund the transition they had to make due to Steinberg switching things up. Ok, but we get nothing for our money but the ability to use products we already bought? It's not even a physical product. Vienna can easily supply upgrades to iLok compatible VEP at no cost to them. They surely have recouped costs of development for VEP 7. With little effort they could generate new keys and deposit them. I don't mind a fair price for a fair product, as evidenced by the thousands I spent with Vienna, but this just doesn't sit right with me. What's in it for us? Thanks.