Thank you for the clarification. So I mixed that up some.

@Another User said:

If you enable the TLC option, your iLok will need to be seen by our server at least once every 90 days for a Refresh operation. This Refresh enables your licenses to continue working for an additional 90 days. If the iLok is not seen by our server by the end of the Refresh period, the licenses on it will cease to authorize your software. Using iLok License Manager to do the Refresh operation will immediately reinstate your licenses.

You still have the license, but you need to get online once to re-enable them, so they keep working another 90 days.

Ben,

Any update on the iLok move ETA?

Cordially,

Tunai

Hi Tunai, 

We'll keep you up to date in this thread for sure! 
Once everything is in place and thoroughly tested, which will take some more time. 

Best, 
Paul

This is great news! Can't wait for this. Just got the new MacBook Pro so one less dongle is a good thing :)

@pianoomann88 said:

This is great news! Can't wait for this. Just got the new MacBook Pro so one less dongle is a good thing 😊

Agreed, I will not sorry to say goodbye to my Steinberg keys.

@Paul said:

1) You don't have to decativate your eLicenser licenses. You CAN use both at the same time. Great, right?

So does that mean we're getting two licences for every product we own? i.e. keep my main PC on eLicenser and my laptop on iLok Cloud?

Hi clruwe, 

You will get converted iLok licenses for every eLicenser-protected permanent license that's on your account. 
So, technically, you will have 2 licenses. And yes, you can run the corresponding products in 2 environments. 

Bear in mind that our that there will be no new products or software updates for eLicenser-protected products once we have made the transition to iLok, but of course existing systems will continue to work.

EDIT: As mentioned before in this thread, the following products will NOT be available on iLok: Vienna Ensemble Pro 3/4/5/6, Numerical Sound FORTI/SERTI and ISP:IR (discontinued in 2014).

Best,
Paul

I've become a USB license-dongle convert!

I use my iMac as a dual-boot system and have various machine-based licensing systems. It appears these licensing systems and a lot of my other 3rd party software insist on treating my two boot drives as two different "computers". This has led to a lot of inconveniences - and serious issues in the case of Waves and CodeMeter licensing,

And yet in the midst of all these asinine problems involved in dual-booting, I've been able to rely upon two things without the slightest fuss or bother:- VSL licensing, and the VSL location databases for VI and Synchron sample libraries (spread across the 2 boot drives plus another drive).

So I'll be going for the iLok dongle when the time comes. Even if the iLok Cloud wasn't so tyrannical I'd still prefer the dongle. (I have plenty of powered USB ports thanks to my big Sabrent hub.) All I ask is that the iLok system provides me with the same totally hassle-free and dependable service as my eLicense system.

Never ever thought I'd be a dongle fan!

Very interesting, thank you Paul. I suppose the only remaining question is how often does iLok need to connect to the cloud once you've open a project? Assuming I'm away from Wi-Fi on my laptop, I can always use my phone to tether a quick connection, but will I require it continuously during the work session and if so, how will this affect latency and similar issues?

All the best!

Hi Paul,

During the purchase  process there's an option to buy an eLisencer too. Just the thing to bring the purchase up a little to qualify to use a voucher. But there's no reason to be buying more eLisncers. Please consider offering the purchase of an iLok dongle as an alternative.

Thanks!

@clruwe said:

Very interesting, thank you Paul. I suppose the only remaining question is how often does iLok need to connect to the cloud once you've open a project? Assuming I'm away from Wi-Fi on my laptop, I can always use my phone to tether a quick connection, but will I require it continuously during the work session and if so, how will this affect latency and similar issues?

All the best!

Right, so the cloud is not very useful then... Especially on WiFi.

I have not yet tested it on my notebook, but to my knowledge you have a certan grace-time until you need to reconnect to the internet. You will get a warning as soon as the connection is lost, and this should give you enough time to save everything and fix your connection.

@clruwe said:

Right, so the cloud is not very useful then... Especially on WiFi.

@Ben said:

I have not yet tested it on my notebook, but to my knowledge you have a certan grace-time until you need to reconnect to the internet. You will get a warning as soon as the connection is lost, and this should give you enough time to save everything and fix your connection.

If user does not have ilok usb device, would you provide for those who own VEP6 with old eLicenser for free?

@Lionberg said:

If user does not have ilok usb device, would you provide for those who own VEP6 with old eLicenser for free?

Hello Lionberg, 

VE Pro 6 will not be available for iLok at all. There will be great upgrade options to VE Pro 7!

Best, 
Paul

It seems to me that the whole point of this move is to get away from hardware licensers. I use Cubase and it will soon be rid of it's elicenser which is great for me as I have a new Macbook Air M1. If I have to have a dongle I might as well use the elicenser(s) I already have!