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  • Extended low range with per-key EQ?

    Done.



  • Future wish:

    It is great that everybody now can play three different Pianos in three different Positions of the hall.

    But for future (unexpected) Piano recordings I hope that VSL chooses the center Position from now on.

    Thank you for great releases!


  • Hi LAJ, 

    Glad you like our Synchro Pianos!

    There is a "Concert Centered" preset included for the both pianos that have not been recorded in the center of the hall(Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial). You will see that these are mainly paning adjustments in close and mid mics. 

    So this is very much a matter of perception, and you can easily adjust any "conductor's perspective" preset like that. 

    Best, 
    Paul

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    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hello Paul,

    what is the big difference to vienna imperial? Is it worthwhile at all to switch from imperial to synchronized Bösendorfer?

    greatings Georgy


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    Hi Georgy,

    It's a completely new recording of a new instrument, with multiple microphones (like all other Synchron Pianos).
    Check out the videos right here, with more in the pipeline 😊

    And here are all current audio demos.

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Great product, as always!

    I am looking forward for the next great additions to Synchron Pianos... maybe a wonderful FAZIOLI???
    Please :)


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  • Hello Paul,

    unfortunately I can't compare it. Are there differences in sound and sensitivity? Is it more realistic like the vienna imperial?, or do the other functions only help me when I want to produce and record music?

    greatings Georgy


  • Hi Georgy, 

    It is a different approach... more flexibility in the mix, but also all of our experience we gained in the last 10 years, plus a custom-built sample robot that surpasses the built-in CEUS technology (for our purposes!). 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hello Paul,

    Congratulations for your new piano product!

    As I am (like many others here I suppose) very tempted to get one of the 3 Synchron grand pianos (Bösendorfer Imperial, Steinway & Sons D-274 and Yamaha CFX), would it be possible to have the same piece music (a duration of 30 seconds would be enough) to hear from these 3 pianos using for each standard library (e.g.  Decca Tree mics) and full library (with other mics obviously) mics  Decca (resulting in 6 audio files) please?

    Thanks for your great products and take care!

    Best regards,

    Gil.


  • The new piano is phenomenal. I'm a long-time user of Vienna Imperial, which I still love, but I'm very impressed by the new Imperial. I'll be using it for a long time as well, no doubt. 


  • Hi everybody, 

    We're really happy that this new piano gets such a friendly welcome!

    A Synchron Pianos comparison video is on the way... should be available tomorrow or on friday!

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi LAJ, 

    Glad you like our Synchro Pianos!

    There is a "Concert Centered" preset included for the both pianos that have not been recorded in the center of the hall(Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial). You will see that these are mainly paning adjustments in close and mid mics. 

    So this is very much a matter of perception, and you can easily adjust any "conductor's perspective" preset like that. 

    Best, 
    Paul

     

    Thanks, Paul ... I will have a look.

    Best, Lars


  • Hello Paul,

    I have bought it today.

    1.

    i think the new bösendorfer has much less bass than the imperial. From C3 on it sounds rather flat against the imperial.

    2.

    I also find the attack in player mode too strong. You notice that especially when you play the moonlight sonata. It sounds so hacked off.

    3.

    And with the key noise you can't hear any difference. You can turn the knob up or down and nothing happens.

    Which would also interest me why the presets always have such a high pedal volume. That almost hurts my ears. No piano has such a loud pedal noise. It hisses like a steam lock.

     

    greating Georgy


  • Hi Georgy, 

    Congrats!

    1) Do you want to post an example? I don't hear that... 

    2) That's always a matter of taste.. I'd try to adjust the volume of the close mics... does that help?

    3) Which knob is that?

    Luckily, you can always adjust the pedal volume. Also, make sure that half-pedaling is ONLY activated if you actually have a pedal that works with half-pedaling (Preferences), otherwise it will indeed always be the loudest. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Hello, Paul,

    1.I can't send you anything, because you can't hear it on the mobile phone recording

    2. you can actually improve it with the condenser microphone

    3. I put a screenshot on you. There is no effect when you turn the knob. I know the function of the ivory pianos, you can clearly hear the keystrokes.

    4. yes i have a half pedal in my clp 585 yamaha. You can adjust the volume, but I don't understand why the default value for the presets is set to such a high volume (value is 0 and still so high). Presets are supposed to be there to have preconfigured values and not to have to change the value for the pedal every time.

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  • I have to agree with Snoopy10 about the pedal noise - it's really loud on the presets, though at least (unlike the  bugged Vienna Imperial) you can actually turn it right down. But really with a continous damper pedal it should be velocity sensitive, because at the moment no matter how slowly I press the pedal, when it reaches a certain threshold there's the same noise. If I move the damper pedal slowly, the damper pedal noise should be much quieter, but the "ambience" from the opened strings should still be there.

    And talking about opened strings, am I missing something here, but is there supposed to be an equivalent of the Vienna Imperial's "2sus" mode? It's one of the things that, for me, really brings a piano to life.


  • I agree with angelus.  I don't hear sides swaying like the imperial, even though it's advertised


  • I also think the pedal noise is very loud in the default setting. Also it doesn't seem to react to continous controller - it's a sharp threshold.

    I have another issue, I find the A6 and G#6 (but other notes as well) to sound very strange when pressed repeatedly, especially in the p to mf range. I attach a file. I don't know if I screwed a setting but it really distracts me from playing. Actually I just loaded the player setting and mixed a little bit some other mics in as well.


  • I noticed that too this morning, but rated it less annoying than the pedal noise and lack of sympathetic pedal sound. Actually, if I was picky, I'd also say there was something off with the release samples in the C1 area as well.