Hi Georgy, 

It is a different approach... more flexibility in the mix, but also all of our experience we gained in the last 10 years, plus a custom-built sample robot that surpasses the built-in CEUS technology (for our purposes!). 

Best, 
Paul

Hello Paul,

Congratulations for your new piano product!

As I am (like many others here I suppose) very tempted to get one of the 3 Synchron grand pianos (Bösendorfer Imperial, Steinway & Sons D-274 and Yamaha CFX), would it be possible to have the same piece music (a duration of 30 seconds would be enough) to hear from these 3 pianos using for each standard library (e.g.  Decca Tree mics) and full library (with other mics obviously) mics  Decca (resulting in 6 audio files) please?

Thanks for your great products and take care!

Best regards,

Gil.

The new piano is phenomenal. I'm a long-time user of Vienna Imperial, which I still love, but I'm very impressed by the new Imperial. I'll be using it for a long time as well, no doubt. 

Hi everybody, 

We're really happy that this new piano gets such a friendly welcome!

A Synchron Pianos comparison video is on the way... should be available tomorrow or on friday!

Best,
Paul

@Paul said:

Hi LAJ, 

Glad you like our Synchro Pianos!

There is a "Concert Centered" preset included for the both pianos that have not been recorded in the center of the hall(Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial). You will see that these are mainly paning adjustments in close and mid mics. 

So this is very much a matter of perception, and you can easily adjust any "conductor's perspective" preset like that. 

Best, 
Paul

Thanks, Paul ... I will have a look.

Best, Lars

Hello Paul,

I have bought it today.

1.

i think the new bösendorfer has much less bass than the imperial. From C3 on it sounds rather flat against the imperial.

2.

I also find the attack in player mode too strong. You notice that especially when you play the moonlight sonata. It sounds so hacked off.

3.

And with the key noise you can't hear any difference. You can turn the knob up or down and nothing happens.

Which would also interest me why the presets always have such a high pedal volume. That almost hurts my ears. No piano has such a loud pedal noise. It hisses like a steam lock.

greating Georgy

Hi Georgy, 

Congrats!

1) Do you want to post an example? I don't hear that... 

2) That's always a matter of taste.. I'd try to adjust the volume of the close mics... does that help?

3) Which knob is that?

Luckily, you can always adjust the pedal volume. Also, make sure that half-pedaling is ONLY activated if you actually have a pedal that works with half-pedaling (Preferences), otherwise it will indeed always be the loudest. 

Best, 
Paul

I have to agree with Snoopy10 about the pedal noise - it's really loud on the presets, though at least (unlike the  bugged Vienna Imperial) you can actually turn it right down. But really with a continous damper pedal it should be velocity sensitive, because at the moment no matter how slowly I press the pedal, when it reaches a certain threshold there's the same noise. If I move the damper pedal slowly, the damper pedal noise should be much quieter, but the "ambience" from the opened strings should still be there.

And talking about opened strings, am I missing something here, but is there supposed to be an equivalent of the Vienna Imperial's "2sus" mode? It's one of the things that, for me, really brings a piano to life.

I agree with angelus.  I don't hear sides swaying like the imperial, even though it's advertised

I also think the pedal noise is very loud in the default setting. Also it doesn't seem to react to continous controller - it's a sharp threshold.

I have another issue, I find the A6 and G#6 (but other notes as well) to sound very strange when pressed repeatedly, especially in the p to mf range. I attach a file. I don't know if I screwed a setting but it really distracts me from playing. Actually I just loaded the player setting and mixed a little bit some other mics in as well.

I noticed that too this morning, but rated it less annoying than the pedal noise and lack of sympathetic pedal sound. Actually, if I was picky, I'd also say there was something off with the release samples in the C1 area as well.

Hi Paul,

I really love the sound of this piano.

If you buy the Standard version, can you try out the Full version as well as temporary licence thing, if you know what I mean?

thanks if you can tell me.

best,

Steve

Hi guys,

Just quick: Thanks for all your input, we're digesting and adjusting!

@Steve, we cannot offer free demo licenses, but we offer a hassle-free 14-days return policy if purchased in our webshop.

Best,
Paul

@Gamma1734 said:

I have another issue, I find the A6 and G#6 (but other notes as well) to sound very strange when pressed repeatedly, especially in the p to mf range. I attach a file. I don't know if I screwed a setting but it really distracts me from playing. Actually I just loaded the player setting and mixed a little bit some other mics in as well.

I've been doing a lot of A/B comparing this morning between Vienna Imperial and the new Synchron Imperial and came to the conclusion that they are so different you can't really compare them. I love the "clinical" anechoic VI sound, it's just like you sitting in your own little (well, maybe not so little) booth right at the piano keyboard, but you cannot compare this to the infinite variety that the Synchron piano with its multiple mics and flexible delay settings gives.

As to Gamma1734's point, that strange "wah wah" effect that those few notes give when repeated in certain dynamic ranges, actually you can hear it just a little in VI too. I'm guessing it's down to the interaction of the string tension and damper force in that particular very small range of notes, but I think it just so happens too that it's hitting something in the acoustic response of the Synchron Stage, like a little bit of "slap" which is arriving back and accentuating it.

Bottom line, I'm going to stick with VI for just playing a piano for enjoyment as the Synchron Imperial has too many little idiosyncracies, but it's got to be the Synchron for serious orchestral work.

Thanks Angelus for your answer. I have both right now, but (sadly) due to financial reasons I will have to give one back (thanks to the return policy). I was sure to keep the new Bösendorfer but now you really make me think about it! It is true: the vienna imperial sounds so different to my ears compared to the Synchron. In fact I privately made comparison recordings and sat down and listened to them. The VI is sharper, clearer, melodic lines are not so nicely connected as the Synchron. Also the black keys just sound better in the Synchron. But there are the other little problems you also adressed. Sadly the wah-wah thing really distracts the playing experience for me... It's just unfortunate. Not sure what to do now. IF... one would have more money :D It's amazing how well the VI held up!

I am hoping a bit that when I have a better situation to buy the full Synchron Bösi (before end of June of course) and get a more realistic sound. I mean it's obviously a great sounding piano - but so is the VI as well. As a student a decision is needed now from my side.

Hello Paul,

1.is there a manual for this new interface with the key noise function?

2. could it be that the velocity seems so hard to me because the key noise control has no function and is therefore set to hard?

3. The same function is available for the ivory pianos. Among other things, it also makes the touch sound less hard.

Hello, Paul,

I've discovered something else.

From f3 downwards a key always sounds double. Once when pressed and then when released.

Hi Paul,

May I please have your advice here. I have just purchased a SSD 2 terrabyte drive, and one of the reasons is to try out the new synchron piano.

However, can I just have the Piano library on the disc by itself, and not with the other vsl samples on the other drive?

The other drive does not have enough room, and it is not an SSD either, so that's why I'm asking.

thanks for your advice here.

best,

Steve