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    @littlewierdo said:

    YAY! Im not the only one around here who thinks the VSL community has been disengenuous about this. Facts dont care about your feelings, yes, it even applies outside of politics.
    I don't know what politics has to do with this, and we're definitely not talking about science. We're talking about marketing, and the only 'facts' are sales figures - and the fact is that there will be numerous users who will not up/downgrade with the current pricing structure.

    Ben Shapiro, a popular political commentator in the United States, coined the phrase, facts dont care about your feelings.

    The real fact is, numerous users will choose to upgrade, numerous users will not.
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    Hi @Paul (if I may),

    I suggest the following price plan:

    VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129

    For each additional license: € 29

    VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399

    For each additional license: € 59

    Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)

    or each additional license: € 19

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299

    For each additional license: € 39

    I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
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    Yes, I will complain straight away - you mentioned subscription.

    any company that uses subscription based licensing, I will run as far away as possible,

    If VSL goes subscription based, I will never buy ever again.
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    @andyjh said:

    Yes, I will complain straight away - you mentioned subscription.

    any company that uses subscription based licensing, I will run as far away as possible,

    If VSL goes subscription based, I will never buy ever again.

    And you wouldn't be the only one. As much as I love the program but when Adobe went subscription only for Photoshop that's when I froze my system at the last non-sub version and haven't updated.
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may),

    I suggest the following price plan:

    VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129

    For each additional license: € 29

    VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399

    For each additional license: € 59

    Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)

    or each additional license: € 19

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299

    For each additional license: € 39

    I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.

    Dude: please pass along whatever you're smoking when you came up with this nonsense. A mind is a terrible thing to waste and yours is wasted big time. Could it be you're littleweirdo under a different screen name?
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may),

    I suggest the following price plan:

    VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 129

    For each additional license: € 29

    VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 399

    For each additional license: € 59

    Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though)

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - 1-Year subscription: € 99 (first year only)

    or each additional license: € 19

    Already own VEP 6? VEP 7 - One license - Perpetual license: € 299

    For each additional license: € 39

    I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.

    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here?
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    @andyjh said:

    Yes, I will complain straight away - you mentioned subscription.any company that uses subscription based licensing, I will run as far away as possible, If VSL goes subscription based, I will never buy ever again.
    It’s very flexible and you can buy a perpetual license if you please.
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?

    Well, there we are back with "forever" (which is a nice thougt) & the question: What happens when Herb T. retires? 😉

    In other words: How long is forever?
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs? Well, there we are back with "forever" (which is a nice thougt) & the question: What happens when Herb T. retires? 😉 In other words: How long is forever? What do you think?
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs? Well, there we are back with "forever" (which is a nice thougt) & the question: What happens when Herb T. retires? 😉 In other words: How long is forever? What do you think?

    You should better not ask that 😄 ...

    ... if I was Herb, I would sell the Software + Samples to a Developer who could theoretically coutinue and pays a good price. But on the other hand I would keep the Synchron Stage "as ultimate hobby" until the rest of my life.
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?We already have VEPro forever. Subscription s/w is a pain in the arse. I don't get why YOU think it's so great. If I didn't know better I'd think you were another Sandy @AOC (Google it).
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?We already have VEPro forever. Subscription s/w is a pain in the arse. I don't get why YOU think it's so great. If I didn't know better I'd think you were another Sandy @AOC (Google it). You have VEP 6 forever indeed, but today you have to pay for an upgrade every time so With a perpetual license you wouldn’t have to. There’s no reason to be skeptical about that.
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may),

    I suggest the following price plan:

    ..........

    I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.

    Unless VSL made you the arbiter of marketing the point is moot. Anyone could throw any figure out there & call it 'sustainable'.
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    I don’t use any subscription software and never will.
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    Most of the people complaining about the upgrade cost don't even have more than one computer and don't need more than one license. You need to stop complaining..
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    @Dewdman42 said:

    I don’t use any subscription software and never will.
    That’s why the option to not subscribe is so great!
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    I would never buy a perpetual forever license either, equally brain dead. Vsl gets more money from me only one way, make something new that is worth the price they want me to pay; value of being determined by me. Until then they don’t get more money. Subscriptions and perpetual licenses represent an investment by the consumer site unseen for future potential updates which not even been announced much less realized. I don’t invest that way. Show me what you got, ask a reasonable price and I will probably buy it. If I need it
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    @McArnes said:

    Hi @Paul (if I may), I suggest the following price plan: [b]VEP7 - One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€129 For each additional license: €29 [b]VEP7 - One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€ 399 For each additional license: €59 Meaning no extra charge for VEP7, VEP8, and so on (unless you increase these prices gradually though) [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7 -[/b][b]One license - 1-Year subscription:[/b]€99 (first year only) or each additional license: € 19 [b]Already own VEP 6?[/b][b]VEP 7[/b][b]- One license - Perpetual license:[/b]€299 For each additional license: € 39 I'm sure someone will complain anyway, but just do it! I think it's more sustainable.
    It seem like we have found our PricingWierdo. Jesus, how many wierdos are here? Unless you’re 85 years old, how can you not be satisfied with getting VEP for 299+extra licenses forever with no new costs?We already have VEPro forever. Subscription s/w is a pain in the arse. I don't get why YOU think it's so great. If I didn't know better I'd think you were another Sandy @AOC (Google it). You have VEP 6 forever indeed, but today you have to pay for an upgrade every time so With a perpetual license you wouldn’t have to. There’s no reason to be skeptical about that.Having a perpetual license has NOTHING to do with not paying for upgrades. Would love to know where you got your interpretation of what a perpetual license is. No company that wants to stay in business and make a profit would follow your model.
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    @Remoteguy said:

    Most of the people complaining about the upgrade cost don't even have more than one computer and don't need more than one license. You need to stop complaining..

    And how do you know that dude? We'll complain if we want - it's not your business to tell us what to do or not do.