@fatis12_24918 said:

To be very honest I'm a bit surprised by the large discussion about licenses: actually if you own VEP 6, you may update 1 licence + EO2.0 for 75€ and if you need to update all the 3 VEP 6 licenses you just buy 2 more single licence update at 45€ each. What's wrong?

snippage here

Very simple, isn't it? 😊

Very simple, isn't it?

@musicman691 said:

To be very honest I'm surprised there are some people who see this as a good thing - losing licenses with the upgrade. Sure you can only upgrade 1 license but then remember that VEPro 6 and 7 won't communicate with each other. And we have no sure knowledge one way or the other whether VEPRo 6 and 7 can even exist on the same system. That's what's wrong.

Very simple, isn't it?

Well, sorry to insist, but nothing is wrong in my very humble and very personal opinion:

what you can say is that it's too expensive, then you don't buy it and full stop.

You may also say that you don't know enough, then you just wait to know more and/or try, then you buy later or never.

It's totally simple my friend: It's your choice.

@musicman691 said:

To be very honest I'm surprised there are some people who see this as a good thing - losing licenses with the upgrade. Sure you can only upgrade 1 license but then remember that VEPro 6 and 7 won't communicate with each other. And we have no sure knowledge one way or the other whether VEPRo 6 and 7 can even exist on the same system. That's what's wrong.

Very simple, isn't it?

Well, sorry to insist, but nothing is wrong in my very humble and very personal opinion:

what you can say is that it's too expensive, then you don't buy it and full stop.

You may also say that you don't know enough, then you just wait to know more and/or try, then you buy later or never.

It's totally simple my friend: It's your choice.

You may think there's nothing wrong but quite sadly you are mistaken. Maybe you like being taken advantage of and are a trusting soul. Those two things are alien to me and have been for decades after some harsh learning experiences. It's called being real and not looking at the world through rose-colored glasses.

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

@EgM said:

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

Valid, but isnt this an issue with any software with paid software upgrades?

@EgM said:

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

Valid, but isnt this an issue with any software with paid software upgrades?

No

@EgM said:

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

Valid, but isnt this an issue with any software with paid software upgrades?

I've never had software with multi licenses or activations removed by upgrading to a new version, no.

@musicman691 said:

Reading comprehension seems to be a problem for you. I never said the ugrade was too expensive. The prices is what it is. It's the way it's being handled is the issue. We're losing licenses with this upgrade - can't you see that? What other developer does this? Not one that I can think of.

 

You may think there's nothing wrong but quite sadly you are mistaken. Maybe you like being taken advantage of and are a trusting soul. Those two things are alien to me and have been for decades after some harsh learning experiences. It's called being real and not looking at the world through rose-colored glasses.

LOL

With or without you insulting me, still there is something to buy, and a clear price for it.

Still your choice to buy or not, and when. 

Peace and love. 

@EgM said:

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

Valid, but isnt this an issue with any software with paid software upgrades?

Forced yearly updates from Apple? Nonsense.... Apple doesn't force anyone to update. And you are not paying double to upgrade from what you signed up on intitially.  Show me where you would be paying double what you paid.. Misinformation is not a good thing....

There will be quite some new features available with VE Pro 7, and what we can tell you already is that

• you will find some very useful FX, based on Vienna Suite Pro, included with VE Pro 7
• you can purchase separate licenses of VE Pro 7 (by popular request)
• introductory upgrade prices for VE Pro 7 are pretty attractive ;-) 

We’re looking forward to revealing more features in the next days, with dedicated videos.

A few days are over, so any idea when? a week, a month?

@LAJ said:

@Remoteguy I hate to repeat myself. But above I already wrote ... With the last Upgrade I paid only 61,00 € for 3 Licenses and now I pay 75 € for one ... Do I miss something?

61 Euros? Wow you must have had some kind of magic price because the introductory upgrade price for VEPro 6 was €85 and after the introductory price  it went up to €105. The list price for VEpro 6 was €285.... Maybe you are referring to VEpro version 4 from 2007????? Again I love all this misinformation. The price has actually gone down. And I am willing to bet that only about %35 of you use more than one license. Please stop the crying. Buy it or don't. If you are power users that have multiple machines linked then I hardly think you would be making so much trouble over the upgrade price. So yes people the actual price of upgrading has gone down, although it is with less licenses. Please stick to facts. 

@Remoteguy said:

Buy it or don't.

Yep, I didn't. I don't buy into uncertainty. It was a great entry offer for people not having Vienna Ensemble at all, though.

@Remoteguy said:

Buy it or don't.

Yep, I didn't. I don't buy into uncertainty. It was a great entry offer for people not having Vienna Ensemble at all, though.

If you don't buy into uncertainty then wait until the details are announced. I believe Paul said the introductory price will stay after the features are announced. Not sure what the problem is....

@LAJ said:

 

@Remoteguy ...

You GiantWierdo have to learn how to push the right button, I guess ...

Oh great. Lets all wait until there is a sale on VEP 7 then talk about it years later.... As I said the normal upgrade price was 105 you aren't saying how you got it for that price.... 

@EgM said:

What some of you fail to understand is that the new upgrade price (Main upg + 2 x licenses) is not the core of the issue, it's only one part of the issue.

The more serious issue is that down the road, we will be forced to upgrade.  That is mostly because of forced yearly MacOS updates by Apple that breaks compatibility, though less of a problem under Windows but no one knows if or when it will happen.

So the "what's the problem, keep using VEP6" statement is fine, but only *for now*.  There is also the fact that if this pricing scheme remains the same, every version of VEP will cost double to upgrade compared to what we signed up on initially.

Valid, but isnt this an issue with any software with paid software upgrades?

@Remoteguy said:

Oh great. Lets all wait until there is a sale on VEP 7 then talk about it years later.... As I said the normal upgrade price was 105 you aren't saying how you got it for that price....

@Remoteguy said:

Oh great. Lets all wait until there is a sale on VEP 7 then talk about it years later.... As I said the normal upgrade price was 105 you aren't saying how you got it for that price....

Looks like a great price. You should continue to use it. Doesn't sound like you need to upgrade. 

He bought VE Pro 6 with a discount via the software package bundle. I'm an idiot, I forgot to do that with VE Pro 7.