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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank our early adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. 

    Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons?

    Best,
    Paul

    A lot of people don't use or care about Epic Orchestra or any of your orchestral libraries. All a lot of us want is to have a functioning VEPro so we can either use multiple computers to spread the load or to more properly use the multiple cpu cores in our computers that our daws don't use. IOW not everyone that uses VEPro cares about orchestral work or has samplers that do the job quite well.

     

    I remember a time a few years back when one of your competitors in the orchestral music s/w world had a low intro upgrade price on a serious upgrade. Said developer didn't come up with the goods until over a year later and meanwhile earned iterest on our money. Let's hope this isn't the case. Take your time and get it right but at least give us some idea of the features in version 7. There's no need to wait until everything works to at least make an announcement of what we can expect. As I wrote before you're asking us to take a huge leap of faith that not everyone wants to take.
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank ourearly adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons? Best,Paul
    Hi Paul, I think you are not addressing the concerns of a lot of people, here and in other forums, about the new upgrade policy, (for a lot of users upgrading cost have doubled, since upgrading last time was 85eur with three licenses), and continue focusing in the added sample material, which they probably have covered. When we bought VEP and built our systems around them we didn’t knew that the price to stay current would double (you have said that development focus is on v7 now), I think you will understand that you look like you are focusing more on new customers than current users, which is healthy for business growth, but you will understand why those users could feel a little neglected. I also know that the sample content is viewed as a gateway to your bigger libraires, but I think the best course would be to present your users an option: if you need vep without any additional licenses, you can purchase it as it stands now, if you need your three licenses, and are not planning to download the orchestra, you can purchase the upgrade (maybe with a cost increase but not double from previous upgrades?). I know that you can charge what you think the market will pay and that’s ok, but I also know that is important to keep customers happy 😊 I say this with the upmost respect, because VEP is very important to my setup, and I wish to keep using and supporting it.
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    I just logged on ready to make the purchase, then I looked at this thread, and realized how little information there is about VE Pro 7.

    Two simple questions:

    One - when will the product be released. I don't mean what date, just are we waiting a month? Three months? Six?

    Two - is VE Pro 7 Synchron-exclusive, or does it work with previous-generation packages such as VE Special Edition?
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    @javajam said:

    So, let's sum up:'THE MAGNIFICIENT SEVEN' (waow!)Great news, I can't stand learning about the magnificient VEpro7!1- Pre-order (mmm... don't know)3- 'Epic Orchestra 2.0' - once more some old bank recycling, I don't get it, are you talking about VEpro7 or?2- 'Single licenses available!' - it means not 3 licenses anymore, less than before but why not.3- Integrated fx - looks like some Vienna Suite Pro stuff recycling, ok but what about 7 itself?.4- 'Many more features!': waow, I'm impressed, too many infos in one shot, I have to read it once more: 'Many more features!'So, your offer is to pre-order a software we don't know anything else about than 'many more features'. Not one single image or feature, nada. What's 'magnificient' there ? Some recycled stuff, software or bank ?Regarding what I expected from the 'sample reinvention' and the 'ultimate in realism and expressiveness' and what I got then, be assured I won't go to any pre-order for my concern.You definitely have baroque announcements, communication and marketing practises, at least...
    It looks like, they want to sell us the Epic orchestra, and then we can have VEpro 7 for free.
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    I just bought Vienna Ensemble Pro last week for my new setup. Are we able to load VEP6 instances in VEP7? Or do we have to rebuild our templates?
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    @musicman691 said:

    As I wrote before you're asking us to take a huge leap of faith that not everyone wants to take.

    They aren't asking anything. Everyone is free to pre-order it or not.
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    @musicman691 said:

    As I wrote before you're asking us to take a huge leap of faith that not everyone wants to take.

    They aren't asking anything. Everyone is free to pre-order it or not.

    So you don't mind paying for something and you don't know what exactly it is or does? By pre-ordering Vienna is asking us to take that leap of faith and I've been stung before. I know one is free to pre-order or not but that's ignoring the problem Vienna has created.
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    So, wait until there's more information posted before you decide if you want to preorder. This is not rocket science...

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
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    @Bill said:

    So, wait until there's more information posted before you decide if you want to preorder. This is not rocket science...

    Idem for me, I wait for AU3…
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank ourearly adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons? Best,Paul
    Hi Paul, I think you are not addressing the concerns of a lot of people, here and in other forums, about the new upgrade policy, (for a lot of users upgrading cost have doubled, since upgrading last time was 85eur with three licenses), and continue focusing in the added sample material, which they probably have covered. When we bought VEP and built our systems around them we didn’t knew that the price to stay current would double (you have said that development focus is on v7 now), I think you will understand that you look like you are focusing more on new customers than current users, which is healthy for business growth, but you will understand why those users could feel a little neglected. I also know that the sample content is viewed as a gateway to your bigger libraires, but I think the best course would be to present your users an option: if you need vep without any additional licenses, you can purchase it as it stands now, if you need your three licenses, and are not planning to download the orchestra, you can purchase the upgrade (maybe with a cost increase but not double from previous upgrades?). I know that you can charge what you think the market will pay and that’s ok, but I also know that is important to keep customers happy 😊 I say this with the upmost respect, because VEP is very important to my setup, and I wish to keep using and supporting it.

    ^^^This! It may be that the majority of VSL's customers don't use networking, but, it seems that statistic doesn't hold within the vocal sub-population here. I purchased VEP precisely because other users, whom I trust, were outwardly enthusiastic about the network features.  
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    As a user since 2001 I was really excited to hear about this and had to pre-order instantly.  Vienna Instruments is the best sampling software, and the upgrades have been totally worth it every time.  I am actually very conservative with a lot of software and often avoid upgrading, but with VSL the newer versions have always been a great improvement.  
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank our early adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. 

    Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons?

    Best,
    Paul

    I like free addons...
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank ourearly adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons? Best,Paul
    I like free addons... I don't. I will never use them. I only want VEpro 7 and nothing more. I have everything else I need. But this upgrade, will be very expensive. So have to wait and see what's in this upgrade, to see if it's worth it
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    @littlewierdo said:

    I like free addons...
    I would like them too. But for this I have to buy less Libraries in the future.
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, The Bonus Taiko is an enthusiastic gesture to thank ourearly adopters for their trust, and also to welcome everbody who is just getting to know our products with VE Pro 7. There's so much to discover with our Synchron Series products, and Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the perfect tool to dive in and check out the possibilities. Who knows, maybe there will be more free add-ons? Best,Paul
    I like free addons... I don't. I will never use them. I only want VEpro 7 and nothing more. I have everything else I need. But this upgrade, will be very expensive. So have to wait and see what's in this upgrade, to see if it's worth it I like free add-ons IF they bring something great to the table that I don't have otherwise. Taikos I got covered big time through East West Stormdrum 2. Give me a functional VEPro7 upgrade that makes financial sense - you know like grandfathering in those of us who have a 3 license VEPro 6 to a 3 license VEPro 7 without added expense.
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    Imagine a world where VEP7 is much better than you expected & really helps you do what you love to do.
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    I've been using VEP5 since I can remember, I think when it was first released I purchased it. I did not buy VEP6 because I read on here there was a lot of issues with it but that was when it was first released.

    This is also my first ever post on here because I never ever had a single issue with VEP5 Pro whatsoever and I can close my eyes and tell you everything about VEP5 as I use it all the time. All I can say VEP5 Pro is one heck of an application and I just hope and pray VEP7 Pro is even better since I just purchased it.

    Hopefully they will have a release date soon? Soon is a chinese word and it could mean tomorrow or a year from now....LOL
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    @concan said:

    Hi Paul,
    my current Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 license contains 3 single licenses. Do they stay with an upgrade to VEP 7 or do I have to buy 2 single licenses?

    Best Rainer

    I also would like an answer to this question. I did notice I only recieved 1 VEP7 license after upgrading but I already have 3 VEP5 licenses so shouldn't we also receive the same amount of licenses with the upgrade?

    I'm not complaining $45 is not a huge problem for me but for others it could.
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    Am I right in assuming that the €45 for the additional liceneces is the normal price and is not on offer, so no need to pre-order to get that price ?
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    @concan said:

    Hi Paul,
    my current Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 license contains 3 single licenses. Do they stay with an upgrade to VEP 7 or do I have to buy 2 single licenses?

    Best Rainer

    I also would like an answer to this question. I did notice I only recieved 1 VEP7 license after upgrading but I already have 3 VEP5 licenses so shouldn't we also receive the same amount of licenses with the upgrade?

    I'm not complaining $45 is not a huge problem for me but for others it could.

    In a fair world those of us who have 3 licenses in VEPro 6 would get the same amount of licenses in the VEPro 7 upgrade. But it's not a fair world unfortunately. Vienna made a business decision that's making a lot of people angry. Also unfortunately this is the only product of it's type out there so it's the old supply & demand rule: we have the supply and can demand whatever the heck we want.

    To clarify something: posters here are stating costs but with the wrong descriptor for a particular cost. That 45 figure is in euros; the American dollar amount is $51.12 at current exchange rates acording to Vienna. Yes it looks like there is no intro price break on the extra licenses (phooey). However the upgrade price if you already have VEPro 6 is $85.21 US and 75 euros (I mistakenly typed 145 euros).