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Hi,
I started to assign instruments through the audio banks menu and whenever I assign an instrument it applies to all the channels. Do I have to set up the channels outside of finale in Vienna Ensemble or can this be fixed in the audio banks menu? Also, I was able to see my entire instrument library (special edition), but now it only displays tubular bells as an option. Please advise.
-Tim
Here's the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/glxmnhnxim8cboc/InfiniteSymphony2.musx?dl=0
Hello Tim!
In order to trigger more than one instrument, I recommend using Vienna Ensemble and loading the instruments there. Channels must be assigned in Vienna Ensemble and in the Finale Score Manager accordingly.
To see all your installed instruments, please make sure that the content folders (the folders that contain .dat files) are assigned in the Directory Manager.
Best regards,
Andi
ok, I've loaded the instruments into vienna ensemble and I am able to select vienna in the score manager, but it only seems to still offer one instrument at a time (like flute for every instrument). I've set up different channels for each instrument like I want it in vienna ensemble, but don't seem to be able to get Finale to recognize this in the score manager menu. It says edit player in the sound area of the score manager. If I select one instrument it applies to the other channels. Is there anyway to show me screenshots of how you would fix this?
thanks,
Tim
Ok, my setup looks the same as yours as far as I can tell. I will attach screenshots to see if there's something wrong. When I use playback in finale in studio view I see a signal, but get no sound.
Thanks for the response. Do you know how to add Vienna Ensemble to the scoremanager options in finale? All I have is Vienna instruments as an option.
I downloaded Finale 25 and Vienna Ensemble is showing up as an option in score manager, but then it says that it can't connect to service.
Hello Timothy!
Thanks for the screenshots. Unfortunately they don't say a lot. I guess that the Vienna Ensemble instance that you have open is a standalone instance. The Vienna Ensemble plugin can only connect to Vienna Ensemble Service. I would try to open Vienna Ensemble Service (64-bit) manually from the applications folder and then connect again. If this doesn't work, please make another screenshot of the error message you get.
Best regards,
Andi
Ok, so now it says it's connected and I see channel levels moving as the score plays back, but I don't hear anything. Any ideas?
Hello Timothy!
It can have different reasons why you don't hear anything.
Where do you see channel levels moving? If you see them in the Vienna Ensemble mixer, please check, if they are routed to the Master Bus and the Master Bus goes to OUT1/OUT2. If this is already the case, please check your driver and output settings in Finale. Vienna Ensemble sends the audio signal back to Finale.
Best regards,
Andi
thanks for the feedback. The sound levels are showing in vienna ensemble, as indicated by the pictures I've attached to this post. Does it look like I have it routed correctly?
Hello Timothy!
I can see in your latest screenshots that audio gets routed to OUT1/OUT2 which means that it gets routed back to the host application (in your case Finale). If you don't hear the audio signals, please check your driver and output settings in Finale, the audio output of your audio device, your outboard equipment and loudspeakers.
Best regards,
Andi
Thanks for your helpful tech support. Most everything seems to be working now, but I have a few more followup questions. Any advice on how to make the horn and trumpet sound better? I'm pleased with the sound quality of the woodwinds, but the horn and trumpet sound very artificial. I'm also interested in buying the saxophone standard pack. Does that work ok with what I have. Last thing is on percussion: A couple of my channels keep re-setting to timpani after I've selected percussion. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
Hello Timothy!
I'm glad that most things seem to be working for you now.
To make instruments sound more natural and less artificial there are many things you could do. You can finetune chosen articulations, dynamics, note start positions and durations and the mix. All these things are easier to edit with DAW software than with notation software.
Learning resources on how to get the best out of our instruments can be found here:
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Academy/Other_Resources
All our instrument collections can be used with Finale, but please note that only the Special Edition Volumes 1 to 4 will work with the "VSL - Special Edition" Human Playback Preferences. For the Instrument collections (like Saxophones) you can add keyswitches and MIDI CC commands with the keyswitch dump file that we provide. If you want to stay with the Human Playback Preferences, you could chose Special Edition Vol. 2 Woodwinds (including Alto, Tenor and Baritone Saxophones) and maybe Special Edition Vol. 4 (inlcuding Soprano and Bass Saxophone).
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Special_Edition_Vol2/SE_Vol2_Woodwinds
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Special_Edition_Complete_Bundle/Special_Edition_Vol4
I don't fully understand the percussion problem. Where did you select "Percussion" and where do the channels reset to "Timpani"? Can you elaborate?
Best,
Andi
Thanks again for your prompt responses. The issue with percussion is that if I don't drag the specific area to the top of the instrument choices then it doesn't use that. For instance, I drug percussion to the top of the menu options and placed it above timpani. It plays percussion now for my percussion 1 part (channel 14), but now the issue is that it only plays the toms, and I can't seem to get the snare to playback. Any idea? Attaching photos of vienna ensemble and score manager indicating that both are channel 14.
IMG_2438.HEIC.zip-1696286123183-qz0mx.zip IMG_0441.HEIC.zip-1696286123183-a3oh6.zipAlso, I tried to purchase the woodwind package you suggested back in November, and I'm not sure what happened as it didn't show up on my bank statement and there's no listing under my products or invoices for this purchase. Just attempted to purchase again, and it seems to be the same problem. please advise.
Hello Timothy!
Thanks for sending those photos.
I recommend only using one percussion instrument on one channel. If you want to switch between different matrices on one channel, you will have to add the according keyswitch note to your score.
By the way. We offer Finale percussion maps for Special Edition Vol. 1. They will help you trigger the right sounds and can be downloaded here:
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Notation_Related
Your order didn't come through to us. Please send a description of what you have done exactly and which message(s) you have received in resonse to sales@vsl.co.at. Our sales team will take care of your problem.
Best regards,
Andi
Thanks, I downloaded the percussion maps and followed instructions but it does not appear as an option as far as I can tell. Attaching picture.
