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    Hello VSL team,

    yeah, I am so excited. 😃 I was waiting all the day for a new discount offer and in some way I expected this kind of new announcement.

    The video is fascinating, we definitely need some demos really soon.

    I have already one question to this new library: What does the number stand for? Will there be a second volume with different articulations?

    You have definitely sweetened my day. 


  • Bought!

    But still no Horror-Effects?? - come on ... you dirve me crazy ... maybe a bonus-effect-lib on Helloween? :D

    Good night.


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  • Great News !   Synchron Strings I will be out in November.  (Early, Mid, or Late Nov. ?) 

    The new Synchron Player should be very exciting, and wonderful to use for the Synchron Line.  Would love to see the GUI, and control options, ..etc. 

    Also missing is info. regarding the size of the Standard and Full versions of Synchron Strings I , hopefully that will be posted in the near future. 

    I'm most likely going to go with the Full version, but would like to know how much SSD space it will occupy before Pre-Ordering it. 

    Also Curious to know if Synchron Strings II will be the Sordino versions ?  and will there be Synchron Versions of all the current Strings i.e. Chamber Strings I, and II,  Appassionata Strings, Solo Strings I and II, Dim-Strings I and II , ...also regarding Brass, and Woodwinds. 


  • Does Synchron Strings I come with the entire string section (Violins 1&2, Violas, Celli and Basses), or just Violins & Cellos?

    On the last frame of the promo video it says "Synchron Strings I (Violins & Cellos)", hopefully I'm not mistaken by the wording.


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    @holywilly said:

    Does Synchron Strings I come with the entire string section (Violins 1&2, Violas, Celli and Basses), or just Violins & Cellos?

    On the last frame of the promo video it says "Synchron Strings I (Violins & Cellos)", hopefully I'm not mistaken by the wording.

    According to the product page  :  Quote "• 1st Violins, 2nd Violins, Violas, Cellos, Basses, recorded at their designated places on stage" 


  • Exciting news, but no col legno? :(

    Maybe we'll see it in a second library.


  • What’s the difference between the full and standard libraries s Also, the list of articulations are very short. Will there come more?

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    8 velocity layers (even for the legatos) sounds just great 😊. However, at least so far, there seems to be far less content compared to current Cube libraries. I have two questions:

    - presently we have up to 5 standard note lengths: staccato, short detache, medium detache, long portato and sustained. In the new library there is apparently only: short, long portato and long. How do they relate?

    - the new libraries include up to 10 variations. Does this mean these new patches include the previous repetition patches (where also the transitions between the notes are sampled), or is it merely 10 “independent” variations (instead of 4 presently)?


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    1) It would be nice to have seperate Informations about the Synchon-Strings-Project in general and what exactly is meant to be Sy-Str I.

    2) Violins + Cellos

    Acccrding to the last moment of the promovideo SyStrI seem to be only "Violins and Cellos"

    As far they are recorded "in situ" this must mean Violins 1 and Violins 2

    ....... but does it likewise mean also Cellos 1 and 2 ?

    3) Articulations

    I always was very happy to have a good variety of diffferent "short articulations the announced Sample content now lists 4 types of large notes but only one type of short notes.

    ....Does the "short notes" of the Synchron Strings include spiccato, staccatos detaches etc?

    While there are different types of sforzandos and Larger notes for instance with and without vibrato listed, how is it with the Synchron Legato.

    ....Is there only one kind of Legato recorded at all, or is iit it applyable on the different types of the sustains and sforzandos to get legatophrases with marcato accents and diferent amount of legato?

    4) Sordino

    There are no "sordino" articulations announced as they have been part of the orchestral strings.

    ... Would a full set of sordino articulation will make seperate libraries as it was with Solo, Chamber and dimension strings, or would it be in any way chose/applyable on the already listed articulations of Sx-Str.I?

    5) section size

    Former VSL-Libraries have been notably characterized with their specific section size (or 'sizeability' 😉 in the case of the dimension strings).

    .. in which section sizes are the Sy-Str. I recorded? Are other Sectionsizes or/and Synchron Solo-Libraries intended?

    6) Harmonics, Sul tasto, sul pont col legno, etc.

    ... will there be seperate Synchron-Libraries to come with Harmonics, Sul ponticello and sul tasto patches or perhaps be part of a sordino set? (However it would be great to have more compehensive Articulationtypes for Sul pont, sul Tasto and harmonics than we have had beffore and also the combinations of sul tasto + Sul pont + Harmonics with sordino and legatos)

    7) Again the question for Superpackage-Users Early bird offer:

    Why should I order the early bird offer, as Superpackage user, if the reduction as part of the Superpackage will be at least likewise 30 % ??? (You should think about to reward faithful "Superpackers" with additional reductions in the early bird days otherwise  I can not see any reason why I should preorder anything, which will stay for me always at the same price)

    However I am very excited to hear more datails about the Synchron-Player and its features....


  • You can see the section size in the photographs...

    Sordino would naturally be in S Strings II


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  • "You can see the section size in the photographs..."
    Should I count the players Could you see who is playing 1. Violin and who 2. Violin and if the Cellos are divided or not?

    Those pictures might be very "informative", but I still would prefer to have the exact number of players per section.

    "Sordino would naturally be in S Strings II"

    And what will be Viola and Basses  and the sordinos of Viola + Basses?

    I still think here is "something" to make more clear especially for those who intend to buy something without exactly knowledge what is not included in this early bird offer.


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    @Another User said:

    And what will be Viola and Basses  and the sordinos of Viola + Basses?

    I still think here is "something" to make more clear especially for those who intend to buy something without exactly knowledge wwhat is included in this early bird offer.

    You're right, it isn't clear at all. But I think they didn't include the violas and basses in the demo because they just haven't finished editing them. As mentioned above (in the product page quote), the Synchron Strings I will include ALL the strings.


  • I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds 


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    @Grodhisatva said:

    I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds 



    I don't know what do you mean for buggy concerning Dimension Strings, but with Synchron Strings I don't think we will see trills performance patch, but pre-recorded trills. With wet samples, I think pre-recorded trills work better.


  • Literally cannot wait 😁

  • Sounds very nice, but I will wait for more demos, like adagios or largo, aso I hope to find some col legno, sul pont and sul pont vibrato, harmonics ( natural and artificials )


  • oh wow, oh wow oh wow!

     

    Too much excitement - will I be able to sleep the next week until they are availble? 8 velocity layers? Fantastic! plus variations with them.

    Really looking forward to hearing the demo's.

    all the best vsl with this.

     

    Steve :-)


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    @Grodhisatva said:

    I'm really hoping the Synchron trills are a step above Dimension Strings, those get really buggy at high speeds 



    I don't know what do you mean for buggy concerning Dimension Strings, but with Synchron Strings I don't think we will see trills performance patch, but pre-recorded trills. With wet samples, I think pre-recorded trills work better.

    the trills sound choppy when played fast, the viola ones don't even work. 

     

    but yeah pre-recorded? why do you say? could be better


  • Owner of many VSL libraries, including Dimension Strings complete.  I purchased that in the Pre-production as well.  I haven't used any VSL strings for probably a year or more now, almost exclusively using Spitfire, so this is intriguing.  My questions are the same as anyone else's:  

    • What's in the standard versus the full library?  Am I really going to shell out another 350 clams for it without knowing what the contents are?  
    • And what is this new Synchron player going to be like?  How much more will that cost me?

    Anyway, don't get me wrong, not being negative, just need a lot more information before purchasing.  But overall I love VSL products.  I use Mir Pro and Ensemble Pro and woodwinds every day.  Have just found Spitfire strings to be so much warmer and more expressive, and easy to work with.

    Best!

    Michael


  • “I always was very happy to have a good variety of different short articulations the announced Sample content now lists 4 types of large notes but only one type of short notes.”

     

    “- presently we have up to 5 standard note lengths: staccato, short detache, medium detache, long portato and sustained. In the new library there is apparently only: short, long portato and long. How do they relate?”

     

     

    I'm only guessing here, but Synchron may be able to vary short sounds dynamically, depeding on how they're played -- or at least switch from short to long as the MIDI note and CC's dictate. Consider this from the announcement:

      

     

    "New algorithms require a minimum of manual articulation switching."

     

     

    New samples and platforms are exciting, but anything that relieves deep, datailed, endless keyswitching would be genuinely ground-breaking.