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Any first reactions to Synchron Strings I?
I have a lot of other VSL libraries along with MIR and the Synchron stage pack so I'm a little leary of jumping in without having more information about what this will do that what I already have won't. The new Synchron player appears to be a key element and we don't know when that will be available.
Snything that simpliefies the process and makes it more intuitive is great but sure would be nice to hear what you think.
Geoff
... a presumed "scientific volume" of an instrument on a stage. So many variables with fuzzy definitions: Which instrument? Who's the player? What notes were played? ... And: Who has been listening?
https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t41142p2-MIRx-natural-volume-without-MIRx?=#post247133
... a presumed "scientific volume" of an instrument on a stage. So many variables with fuzzy definitions: Which instrument? Who's the player? What notes were played? ... And: Who has been listening?
https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t41142p2-MIRx-natural-volume-without-MIRx?=#post247133
I had discussion before some years ago, I don't remember if it was on this forum or another one and I do remember that was the position VSL took - however I hope that has changed. New experience and technological advancement over time bring new possibilities. If they didn't then why make a new library of instruments already covered? 😊
In general dynamic relations can have many variables - but the variables in this case are pretty cleanly defined, and from where I'm watching it seems to be by design. The instruments are being recorded in position in the same hall - based on the diagrams it seems the plan is very much to fill out the whole orchestra with their seating intact in relation to each other. The array of microphones will be in the same position for all, and I would assume they will be the very same microphones each time. Based on this setup the relations in dynamics between layers and between different instruments (including the effect relative distance plays) is very much measureable, and I would say extremely relevant.
In the end it begs the question - if this is not what they are doing, then what on earth does the "fixed gain" mean? Just to have uniform volume within individual dynamic layers? That's not terribly exciting.. because VSL has done a good job of that since the very first library.. it hardly seems like something to advertise as a new feature..
It is certainly my hope this is what they are doing - I respectfully disagree that natural dynamic levels and correct dynamic range cannot be provided by sample libraries - yes, decisions have to be made, you obviously cannot cover every possibility of live interaction. But then again these libraries are a snapshot of the Synchron players, in the Synchron hall, using the Synchron recording chain - so why not? That correct dynamic relationships are perceiveable is hard to dispute - because it is so painfully obvious in its absence. 😉
Hi to the forum,
When we buy the library, I'm guessing that even though the violas and DBasses are not ready yet, we still get them as part of the price, and still download them when ready? [ - like when Dimension Strings was released, they waited for the Cellos etc, but they were still included in the original price]. Sorry if this sounds a kind of stupid question everyone!
thanks,
Steve 😊
Hi Steve,
We're working with high pressure on all string sections here in Vienna.
Yes, Synchron Strings I contains all the string sections listed on the product page: 1st violins (14), 2nd violins (10), violas (8), cellos (8) and double basses (6).
Best,
Paul
Hi Steve,
We're working with high pressure on all string sections here in Vienna.
Yes, Synchron Strings I contains all the string sections listed on the product page: 1st violins (14), 2nd violins (10), violas (8), cellos (8) and double basses (6).
Best,
Paul
Thank you Paul,
that's great. I just wanted to be sure.
best,
Steve 😊
I must say it has been a 'while' since I have purchased a NEW VSL library (and I was one of the very first early adopters years back) - BUT this has caught my attention. Both in what I am 'hearing' (samples) and the prospects of a more straightforward player to get what's in our heads to our clients - faster. Of course not enough vid content currently to make an informed decision at this point. Looking forward to your upcoming vid releases on this Paul.
I must admit, this seems to be an odd way to release a new library that everyone is excited to hear and learn more about. All we have is a little teaser trailer and a basic outline. I wonder if the marketing department are on holiday.
I was rather hoping we might know a little more by now.
What worries me is the they mght suddenly turn round and say the library is released tomorrow, so you have until then to pre order it, whilst we have little or no more detail on it.
Of course it may well be that the library is being released later on November and whole raft of info ready to be - but I do hope we will have a reasonable amount of time and a reasonable amount of information upon which to make a decision.
Hi mantrum,
Even there are still enough questions to be answered about what Sy.Str. will be What you call "a basic outline" is in my eyes already far more than you learn about the most other string libraries on the market.
You learn that already the sample content of this first volume is significant more deep sampled than any other Stringlibrarie on the market.
Yes it is a pre-order. If this does not raise your attention enough, you still can wait until it is available. Nobody forces you to enjoy the advantage of the preorder conditions.
I must admit, this seems to be an odd way to release a new library that everyone is excited to hear and learn more about. All we have is a little teaser trailer and a basic outline. I wonder if the marketing department are on holiday.
I was rather hoping we might know a little more by now.
What worries me is the they mght suddenly turn round and say the library is released tomorrow, so you have until then to pre order it, whilst we have little or no more detail on it.
Of course it may well be that the library is being released later on November and whole raft of info ready to be - but I do hope we will have a reasonable amount of time and a reasonable amount of information upon which to make a decision.
He is absolutely right, I agree with mantrum!
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It seems that VSL marketing team is not very good in building tension. They started with an earthquake (8 velocity layers?! WOW), but nothing happened since then. That bird maybe flew out too early...
If I were VSL I will do this crazily annoying thing:
day 1 - new strings library from VSL
day 2 - 80 variations per note
day 4 - up to 8 velocity layers - you can buy it now, promo price!
day 7 - awesome set of articulations
day 9 - all sections in one package
day 10 - mics, I see mics everywhere
day 12 - only 10 GB of data due to revolutionary compression algorithms ;)
day 13 - DEMOS!
With that I would have at least a sense of progress... I'm still waiting for day 13th though!!! ;)
😉
You forgot completlty the new Synchron-Player, I expect its feautures and completly new approach to program orchestrasamplelibraries will be enough for the next 14 Days. And I have the impression that we all know that this is something new comming that raises a good part of unanswered questions.
So here is my marketing suggestion: Just announce there is something overwhelming comming, avoid any further information, because since the Librarie is on the market no one will seriously read it and of course no one will ever be satisfied just with "information"
So until the librariy is available. simply play nonstop Charles Ives unanswered question 
... completly new approach to program orchestrasamplelibraries will ...
... but what worries me a little bit ... If this whole concept is the better concept (compared to the dry recordings at Silent Stage) ...
Why has VSL not stopped recording the old way and recorded the Historic Instruments Collection in the same way (without multi-mic) at Silent Stage? Means 8 Velo-Layers, lots more Variants etc. pp.
BTW congratulations to 400 Posts ... Wow 😄
Well, I've just seen that an expiry date of Oct 31st has been put on the intoductory offer for Synchron Strings.
Are VSL honestly expecting to encourage people to pre-order when the only thing availble is a short video with a couple of the instruments playing for a very short while (40secs) againt the backdrop of some impressive percussion ?
Come on VSL, please post a couple of video/audio samples to help us make up our minds......
