Second on RAM question! How much should we've got? Can we work with Synchron with 8 GB as requirements site says? Or maybe without 32 it will be far from fun?

I'd recommend to run the Synchron library off of an SSD and have adequate RAM in your machine and optimize your pre-load buffer sizes in the Directory. 

@lucor said:

My only problem is, that I'm pretty intimidated by the scale of this whole library with my measly 32gb of RAM.

Well there's a way to fix that... 😉

-Sean

Hi, 

I'll do my best to have videos available before the Early Bird Offer ends. 

Regarding RAM, with 1st violins only: If you want to load all available microphones with all available articulations, much RAM is necessary (these are the quick tests on my computer):

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins.
With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

There will be alternatives available for a more resource-friendly workflow, like a ready-made stereo-mix. 
The presets will load without any samples loaded ("disabled cells"), and you will like the option to load articulations in only when you need them ("Activate cells on MIDI Activity". 

The "Optimize" option will also be a great help for smaller setups (the the sample player learn which samples of which articulations it actually needs for the specific arrangement). 

So there are quite some helpers there, but you are right: Synchron Strings I is by no means a small library.

Best, 
Paul

@Guy Bacos said:

I'd recommend to run the Synchron library off of an SSD and have adequate RAM in your machine and optimize your pre-load buffer sizes in the Directory. 

I don't understand why we can't take advantage of SSD with Synchron Strings ?

@Paul said:

Regarding RAM, with 1st violins only: If you want to load all available microphones with all available articulations, much RAM is necessary (these are the quick tests on my computer):

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins.
With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul!  Is this a typo?

@Paul said:

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins.

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul!  Is this a typo?

Presumably it should be

"With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins.

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the STANDARD Libtrary / 1st Violins."

with 32 GB RAM you are ready to load 1.+2. Violins of th all Microphonepositions of the FULL-Library with all Articlations tio let them play completly "insane tuttichord"😛 and with another 1-2 32GB PC's like that you are ready to let the whole Synchronstrings I be loaded and play completly "insane tuttichord"😛....

However in real world you will neither need always load all Microphonepositions nor all articulations and VSL obviously provided a bunch of options to reduce the amount of actual loaded articulations what means in consequence your 32 GB will presumably be still reasonably usable.

@Paul said:

Regarding RAM, with 1st violins only: If you want to load all available microphones with all available articulations, much RAM is necessary (these are the quick tests on my computer):

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins.
With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul!  Is this a typo?

No it's the art of reading between Paul's lines 😉

This Synchron Series will be a bigger Hardware-Challenge - more than I have expected it would be.

I think I have to re-plan ... 

Ouch. 

So for the full library (400 gb) you need to load around 50 gb on RAM. It's like 12 % of totale samples go on RAM.

Am I wrong or it s an higher % respect the previous VSL product? I mean considering the same preload size.

Hi, 

My suggestion is to take advantage of the options that are available, to minimize RAM consumption. 

You will also get away with a lower Pre-Load size with an arrangement, it all depends on how you use the strings, with all the X-Fading Options, and the available mic positions. 

Best,
Paul

Thanks a lot Paul,

still sounds very optmized if we consider how many samples have to be streamed at the same time.

Let's also hope that newest ddr4 RAM and SSD M.2 will help us virtual orchestrator a lot :)

@LAJ said:

This Synchron Series will be a bigger Hardware-Challenge - more than I have expected it would be.

I think I have to re-plan ... 

Yes of course it ill be a bigger Hardware Challenge. It is alomst like the previous VSL-Libraries have been when they were released. When I started with the Cube we even had no 64 bit Systems at all and I needed 4 PC's with scracly 3 GB-RAM loaded to keep all sections simultaneously working It is not so long ago that I had for the first time the chance to keep the Superpackage loaded on one 64GB System. Now nearly 15 Years after the Cube was released we start again and presumably will come back again to networking at least for more elaborated projects.

But what did you think will be the situation again 10-15 Years later when VSL will start his next groundbreaking Orchestral library-Series. Of course it will be again 10 times more powefull and 10 times more hardware consumptive simply because the development of the available hardware will be not sleep either.

In short it might be necessary in the near future to keep an eye on the capacity of the hardware but imho over the years this wont stay that much a problem. Just lets wait how the available hardware looks like when the Synchon-Series is complete in the next years.

I calculated 64 GB for Perc/Drums, Strings, and all basic Winds ;) ... shit!

Since the appearance of the Synchron Percussions 1, it was clear that a complete Synchron-Library will not be a ultimate must-have for "mainstream-musicians" too soon. (Especially because of the Hardware-costs)

What you have to see today in addition to that is, that many people have thier Harddrives already full of Composer-Libraries. That was not the case when the VSL started their business. (And I'm glad that I never seriously collected some other Library)

But finally I have still more than 3K € Vouchers for future-products ... means: I have to take some action!

@LAJ said:

 

I calculated 64 GB for Perc/Drums, Strings, and all basic Winds 😉 ... shit!

Since the appearance of the Synchron Percussions 1, it was clear that a complete Synchron-Library will not be a ultimate must-have for "mainstream-musicians" too soon. (Especially because of the Hardware-costs)

What you have to see today in addition to that is, that many people have thier Harddrives already full of Composer-Libraries. That was not the case when the VSL started their business. (And I'm glad that I never seriously collected some other Library)

But finally I have still more than 3K € Vouchers for future-products ... means: I have to take some action!

1) 64GB seem to be not that bad to work (with some RAM-Managemant) You simply have to care for, that you do not load, what you do not inevitably need. And as Paul mentionned often enough VSLprovide some tools to help you. However, while 64 GB RAM was enough to keep nearly the whole previous Superpackage simultaneously loaded this will be presumably no longer the case with the Synchron-Series.

2) When I started with VSL of course I already had several other Libraries installed and in use (I remember Miroslav Vituos, XSample, lots of Akai Libraries loaded in Kontakt, several Gigasample-libraries). If you need storage go for another (larger) SSD. The amount of Storage which is needed raises as the prices for storage constantly fall. VSL just again pushes the limits😉

3) 3K sound good, spend another 3K for a dedicated Slave and you are fine 😃

Ok the early bird has become the old bird, and the worm , where the hell is it!!!! LOL ! I am sooooo excited!!

Paul, can you give us an update on how things stand? I don't expect the good folks at VSL to work through the Christmas days, so technically there are two weeks left for a december release.

@Paul said:

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 10 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

With a Preload size of 8192 Samples, you will need around 5 GB of RAM for the FULL Libtrary / 1st Violins. 

So one mic = about 1.25 gigs. Hmm. One more question then - close mic. I'm not going to lie, I'm not a recording expert and I'm not sure if I understand what mono means there. Is this mic usable per se and can be compared to, for example, silent stage recordings?

I look forward to getting my copy!

I Bought mine now, Very excited about it! 😃