Hello Viktor,

 I am sorry for hijacking the thread too many times, but just in case your last question was directed to me, I would rather write a short note than leave it hanging.

 I feel like you overcomplicate things.  If you do think you lack some experience, its always good to hold on to something plain and solid - which  in your case is a full Mirx mock-up with the internal pre-eq and natural volumes intact. Once you dial it in for all VSL stuff - its a basement,  and just by playing with the dry/wet ratios, some filter to tame highest annoying sounds a bit, and of course  - right dynamics (!) and good arrangement,  you should not experience any "mixing" problems.  Dietz has given us some fine presets in the form of Mirx, I am not sure why would you choose otherwise.

With all the resources and individual control available in Dimension Strings, I felt like there just had to be a way to get what I wanted, so I had an idea today that I hadn’t tried before. Maybe some of you have already tried something similar, but I hadn’t until now.

I was interested in creating a violins preset that just a slight amount of vibrato, and also that had a legato time of more than the standard perf-leg patches, but with a lot less than the portamento patches.

Starting with a blank VI Pro, and into a single cell I did the following steps with the DS Violins:

1. Loaded 6 single perf-leg_Vib patches in slots 1-6,  row A
2. Loaded 2 perf-porta_noVib patches in slots 7 & 8, row A
3. Loaded 6 single perf-leg_noVib patches in slots 1-6,  row B
4. Loaded 2 perf-porta_Vib patches in slots 7 & 8, row B
5. Time-stretched all port patches to quicken the portamento (created a negative curve using a max negative value from 0.00s to 0.30s)
6. Panned everything L & R about 35 ticks from center
8. Increased Global Release time to 73
9. Set Humaniza at 79, Tun at 63, and Delay at 28 (delay not necessary). Used DS in-tune random preset
10. Reassigned Expression to MOD wheel
11. In mixer, adjusted volume of sliders 7 & 8 of porto patches (0 to -5 db).
12. Instantiated the Vienna Equalizer after the VI Pro instrument channel in Pro Tools. Used EQ Factory Preset Dim Violins Ensemble - elegant.  (There’s an EQ in VI Pro, but it’s too basic.)

This setup works really well for unison violin melodies, or for parts of the open-voiced chords I mentioned before (created with probably with a lesser number of players). It does not sound thin. The addition of a few of the time-stretched porta patches enhances the legato and makes for a very smooth connection between notes. Everything just blends and does not sound mechanical or sterile.

I also created similar setups for the Violas, Celli, and Basses, and the results are pretty spectacular. This was just a test setup; I’ll probably make something with cell-crossfading to bring in the porta patches, and assign it to a controller.

So, after what I’d written here yesterday, I feel a lot better about Dimension Strings today. There’s a lot of untapped potential with a degree of control no other libraries have.

@Another User said:

Dietz has given us some fine presets in the form of Mirx, I am not sure why would you choose otherwise.

@Hesam Seyed Mousavi said:

library such as Berlin Strings

Are you talking about those library that is not fixed since release, with hanging notes and bad scripting? Good luck then [:D]

If this thread continues at all, let's try to keep on track...

Re the request for a sample, not at the moment, but I'd say try the 12 steps, and you can see first hand. Should only take about 10 minutes to set up.

@garylionelli said:

Re the request for a sample, not at the moment, but I'd say try the 12 steps, and you can see first hand. Should only take about 10 minutes to set up.

Thanks for the reply, but I can't, since I don't have Vienna Equalizer. I'm just generally looking out for audio samples of good-sounding Dim violins, so I have some model in mind as I work with the EQ's available to me.

Looks like this forum doesn't allow pics to be attached, or I'd send you a pic of the EQ settings...

Hi,

Demo Licenses for all our software products can be ordered on the product pages when you are logged in as a user, e.g., Vienna Suite (click "try").

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Best,

Paul

@Another User said:

Looks like this forum doesn't allow pics to be attached, or I'd send you a pic of the EQ settings...

Thanks for reply Vizmusic. I´ll try again DS with MIRx, I like it for its sound - solo DS is great, the problem is when I have other instruments - brass, woodwinds, piano, harp, dthe sound changes and the orchestra is not integrate, maybe because I don´t have dimension brass or others full libraries (I have SE), but with Orchestral strings (SE) it sounds better. But I can tell you that Appassionata strings (SE) don´t sound great for me too in the mix! Maybe those are my ears that don´t accept! I´ll try again other templates, maybe the one of garylionelli or Saxer´s once again. Why not? Thanks again!

Bach -- I'll PM a pic to you...

It's an interesting topic I can relate to. I found the Dimension Strings to be extremely flexible and playable. They respond so well to cc changes (I use a breath controller) that it's a joy to play. But the raw sound is a bit laid back and slightly veiled to my ears. Maybe it's because of the close micing, I don't know.

I spent quite some time testing different eq-settings and other plugins. Finally I found something I'm currently happy with. It sounds a bit more open with these settings, without becoming overly harsh.

Here's a snippet, first out of the box, then with my settings:

https://soundcloud.com/linos-music/vienna-dimension-ltrings

Nice...