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  • Hi guys, i´ve tried everything and still with phase issues!

    I´m working on a orchestration and the phase sound is killing me. 

    Here is a example with no eq and reverb, just tradicional panning!

    http://michaelmachado.com.br/audio/Phase2.mp3

    I don´t have MIR and i´ve got the vienna instruments pro to use the harmonize function and still sound like the above example .


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    Hi Michael,

    beautiful music! 👍

    I can't really hear what a sound-engineer would call "phasing" - maybe you have to point me towards the sonic aspects you don't like.

    Is there any chance to see the setups you were using? Was this done within VE Pro?


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    Hi Michael,

    beautiful music! 👍

    I can't really hear what a sound-engineer would call "phasing" - maybe you have to point me towards the sonic aspects you don't like.

    Is there any chance to see the setups you were using? Was this done within VE Pro?

     

    Hi Dietz, thanks for reply!

    The music is not mine, it´s only a orchestration. Claudio Santoro is the name of the composer, Prelude 1 is the name of the piece.

    The entire melody sound wierd to me, specially when played one octave

     

    I´m use cubase pro 8. And no, this was done within VE 5, not the PRO version.

    Which setups do you wanna see?


  • Assuming that all instruments are set up within Vienna Ensemble, just save the VI-Frame and and attach it to your next reply in this thread. Alternatively, you could send it to supportATvslDOTcoDOTat, to my attention (... please add a reverence to this thread). You could also add the Cubase-project then (without any audio files), although that shouldn't be necessary, and it could give me some troubles as I haven't upgraded to Cubase 8 yet.

    In any case: I'll look into it ASAP; just allow for a few days, please.

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    Assuming that all instruments are set up within Vienna Ensemble, just save the VI-Frame and and attach it to your next reply in this thread. Alternatively, you could send it to supportATvslDOTcoDOTat, to my attention (... please add a reverence to this thread). You could also add the Cubase-project then (without any audio files), although that shouldn't be necessary, and it could give me some troubles as I haven't upgraded to Cubase 8 yet.

    In any case: I'll look into it ASAP; just allow for a few days, please.

    Kind regards,

     

    There you go! 

     

    Dietz, It´s sound good to you? 

    MichaelVE.rar-1696258514001-xi80t.rar

  • Hi Michael,

    I just looked at the VI Frame and I listened to the audio snipped you supplied again. For me, there's nothing wrong with either of them (... although I would pan the individual instruments differently, but that's a different story).

    It might happen that you _really_ run into phasing issues, though, due to the fact that you seem to use several instances of the same instrument (e.g. Dimension Violins - Player 1). I would have to see and hear the actual Cubase project for verification, but you could check it yourself: I marked the suspicious instruments in your VI Frame.

    Kind regards,

    Image


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    Hi Michael,

    I just looked at the VI Frame and I listened to the audio snipped you supplied again. For me, there's nothing wrong with either of them (... although I would pan the individual instruments differently, but that's a different story).

    It might happen that you _really_ run into phasing issues, though, due to the fact that you seem to use several instances of the same instrument (e.g. Dimension Violins - Player 1). I would have to see and hear the actual Cubase project for verification, but you could check it yourself: I marked the suspicious instruments in your VI Frame.

    Kind regards,

    Dietz, thanks for reply again.

     

    What should i do to simulate the first and second violins? Split into 4 or layering with other library (which i don't have)?


  • Hi Michael,

    thanks for the Cubase-project.

    I quickly added MIR (using MIRx presets) and printed a rough submix from the first and second violins only. Are you still hearing phasing issues? I don't. :-)

    Kind regards,

    Image


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    Hi Michael,

    thanks for the Cubase-project.

    I quickly added MIR (using MIRx presets) and printed a rough submix from the first and second violins only. Are you still hearing phasing issues? I don't. 😊

    Kind regards,

     

    Thanks, but i don't have MIR. You change the pan, but what about the other instruments?  Is there a tip (or preset) for panning dimension strings? 

     

    Sounds thin, but amazing! 


  • It's not about MIR (I just used it because it gives me usable basic settings automatically) - I just wanted to make sure that we both hear and see the same results. For me, there's no phasing, and I hoped to hear the same from you. :-)

    ... I don't understand the final statement "thin, but amazing".


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    It's not about MIR (I just used it because it gives me usable basic settings automatically) - I just wanted to make sure that we both hear and see the same results. For me, there's no phasing, and I hoped to hear the same from you. 😊

    ... I don't understand the final statement "thin, but amazing".

     

    Thin because 8 violins sounds thin anyway. Amazing is the instrument position on MIR, it´s perfetc! 

    Dietz, i'll try to paning diferent here. Thanks for your time. VSL Suport is great!


  • I am aslo working on a Dimension Strings project at the moment and want to achieve a relaxed, silky, and smooth/lush sound. I am using VE PRO/MIR PRO/VI PRO. So far I was able to accomplish this by orchestrating and having my players playing pp/mp. In each player channel in VE Pro, I added the resonance VSL EQ preset (for specific player), but I would love to know what settings are best to give you that sound.

    Thank you,

    -Nektarios