@Saxer:

I was wondering, apart from DS, what other intruments did you use in the FirstView piece?

Obviously there's a piano, but there's also a hint of a harp (SE Harp?) if I'm not mistaken at about 1:00.

Now that I use the Ipad to control Vienna Ins, I've changed keyswitching to cc 12 and use the Ipad to switch. Now all samples play correctly no matter where I start. 

The intimacy and expression possibilities of Dimension strings  is great but setting up for a newby Vsl is a minefield . Is there anywhere one can download some user presets , especially ones like this ?

Very good template. I especially like the part from ca. 0'44'' onwards.

For those interested to hear further examples of DS in action - you can take a listen at Wagner and Mozart examples here. Both were done when only DS Violins were available, but they should give you a good impression of what is possible when combining DS with other VSL string libraries. Wagner example employes Orchestral & Solo Strings in addition to DS Violins, Mozart example employes Chamber Strings (for a smaller and more period performance-like playing and sound style).

Absolutely great examples, Goran.

Hi Saxer, are you any closer to wanting to share this template? plus 1 for contacting you directly

Thanks so much . Would you mind also adding a snapshot of your arrange page and mixer page in your daw  to see how this works ( or if you are on logic a template song even better . Hope I am not being greedy .

Cool , thats great . Thats all I wanted to see . I also see you werent using MIR  or Mirx. for positioning  . Is that because you dont like the sound ? I like it for positioning but not reverb which sounds a bit harsh in my experience compared to others like Altiverb etc..The only thing I dont know now is whether its worth bothering with setting up Dimension strings with seperate players each postioned differently in mir . Obviously the workload in setting that up would be  intense so probably not . A final question I have is why are the legato patches playing polyphonically . ie to achieve a portamento at low velocity you have to be careful to not hold onto the 1st note too long otherwise you will here both . And a final request , any chance of uploading the vepro viframe . When I have the basses I will add them to the template and resend . Thanks again ps your demos and string arranging are fab . 

@molemac_824 said:

A final question I have is why are the legato patches playing polyphonically...

@Stephane Collin said:

Absolutely great examples, Goran.

Thank you, Stephane, I am very, very pleased with how these turned out myself...

Any luck with uploading the viframe ? I am doing an experiment with your template and one with Berlin strings and at the moment you are coming out on top but I am struggling to recreate the space you have which might be in the eqs or reverb settings . I notice you have a different setting for each section ?

Hi again,

I have recreated the template in ve pro ( minus the reverb and eq settings ) and it really sounds great , so thank you very much for sharing . I have a question about how best to achieve divisi writing with it . Is there a way of enabling say 6 tracks violins a and b , violas and cellos and having logic automatically split out the midi chanels so that you can play a chord and hear it in divisi ie so it only sends one note of the chord to each instrument . Basically the same way Lass does it in autoarrange . I have managed to set this up with other libraries using Kontakt with a script but the only way I can see this working with Vsl Dimension is to load all the sections in one instance and use auto voice . I did come accross something called smart scoring http://dawcontrol.com/product/smartscoring/  but I could never get it to work .

I presume you are just playing in each part seperately which sounds great but is potentially a lot more work .

@Saxer said:

....but in the end auto-divisi in lass was not flexible enough for me as you always have the same dynamic curves for all divisi-parts.

That was always my objection to polyphonic legato. It never made musical sense to me. However, with Note Expression in Cubase that could be a thing of the past.

DG

Or buy yourself a ROlli keyboard and have each finger send seperate midi info , ie midi channel and cc and aftertouch . I have ordered mine but delivery is not expected for a while. In the meantime I am hoping someone can develop a midi fx script for logic .re note expression : obviously useful but unless I have not got it , it seems it is just a post recording editing feature rather than a live input one. ie the point of auto divisi is to be able to avoid editing your parts and hear the beauty of the seperate sections in real time  on the fly which is more inspirational and quicker. 

Seperate tracks is a great way of working for the most realistic demos but I am also wanting a shortcut version for sketching and composing that allows you to hear a full section when writing say a string pad that isnt everyone playing the same notes. Lass is close but I prefer the DImension strings sound.

I'll be interested to hear how you get on with that keyboard. For me the main problem would be having to learn to play with a different technique, having spent over 40 years playing with traditional Piano technique. The other problem would be that the independence of fingers, and touch would have to be very accurate, and I suspect at the time taken to get it right could be halved by just playing each line separately.

DG

To do all of this precise MIDI control in real time is actually more difficult than doing it afterwards by simple editing.  I used to try to control modulation while playing, but it is easier to put it in afterwards.  Even velocity is unnecessary since it is difficult to play perfectly every single note at the right dynamic with samples, regardless of your piano skills, so you will be editing anyway.  Some people brag about their pianistic technique ( not DG, but others)  which I find nonsensical.  Who cares about pianistic technique when you are playing a flute sample?  It is meaningless.