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    good idea! i must try that! thanx!
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    @Saxer said:

    good idea! i must try that! thanx!

    I also have a macro that shrinks the KS to a short length and puts me in Step Input mode, so all I have to do to enter a new KS is:

    1. Hit Macro KS
    2. Click where I want the KS
    3. Enter the KS
    4. Bit Macro again (it is a toggle) and everything is back to being legato (with a slight gap, to avoid 2 note ons active at the same time.

    Using this system means that it is really quick to enter incredibly complicated patterns, and saves having multiple MIDI Key editors open at the same time.

    DG
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    Daryl,

    Are you using the macro to step through and then clicking your Lemur to actually input the KS?  Or are you manually entering the KS?  Why not setup your own VST Expression map and let it do it for you?  Or are you using a combination of the macro plus the VI PRO Midi input system to type in your KS?

    I am interested in seeing this macro in action.  I am always looking for the fastest possible way to enter patch changes.

    Maestro2be
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    Button on Lemur enables Macro

    KS entered by touching the correct button on the Lemur

    Button on Lemur switches Macro off.

    VST Expression is too basic for my needs.

    DG
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    @Saxer:

    I was wondering, apart from DS, what other intruments did you use in the FirstView piece?

    Obviously there's a piano, but there's also a hint of a harp (SE Harp?) if I'm not mistaken at about 1:00.
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    Hi, I love your templates! Is it possible to get my hands to it? :-) :-) Cheers, -N.
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    Now that I use the Ipad to control Vienna Ins, I've changed keyswitching to cc 12 and use the Ipad to switch. Now all samples play correctly no matter where I start. 
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    The intimacy and expression possibilities of Dimension strings  is great but setting up for a newby Vsl is a minefield . Is there anywhere one can download some user presets , especially ones like this ?
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    Very good template. I especially like the part from ca. 0'44'' onwards.

    For those interested to hear further examples of DS in action - you can take a listen at Wagner and Mozart examples here. Both were done when only DS Violins were available, but they should give you a good impression of what is possible when combining DS with other VSL string libraries. Wagner example employes Orchestral & Solo Strings in addition to DS Violins, Mozart example employes Chamber Strings (for a smaller and more period performance-like playing and sound style).
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    Absolutely great examples, Goran.
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    Hi Saxer, are you any closer to wanting to share this template? plus 1 for contacting you directly
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    oh, hi there everyone


    you can download my patches here. they are done in 'vienna instrument pro' and will be online for a week or so (depending on the provider).

    http://we.tl/YpZCFB1ECH

    they are named with the number of players, section and divisi (A+B). basses are not included (i didn't have time to add them after they were published). i would be happy if someone could add them to the template (non-divisi) and upload them!

    have fun!
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    Thanks so much . Would you mind also adding a snapshot of your arrange page and mixer page in your daw  to see how this works ( or if you are on logic a template song even better . Hope I am not being greedy .
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    there's nothing special in the mixer that i wouldn't do with any other strings

    http://imageshack.com/a/img571/9162/yyom0.jpg
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    Cool , thats great . Thats all I wanted to see . I also see you werent using MIR  or Mirx. for positioning  . Is that because you dont like the sound ? I like it for positioning but not reverb which sounds a bit harsh in my experience compared to others like Altiverb etc..The only thing I dont know now is whether its worth bothering with setting up Dimension strings with seperate players each postioned differently in mir . Obviously the workload in setting that up would be  intense so probably not . A final question I have is why are the legato patches playing polyphonically . ie to achieve a portamento at low velocity you have to be careful to not hold onto the 1st note too long otherwise you will here both . And a final request , any chance of uploading the vepro viframe . When I have the basses I will add them to the template and resend . Thanks again ps your demos and string arranging are fab . 
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    @molemac_824 said:

    A final question I have is why are the legato patches playing polyphonically...


    they just do, i did no extra edit for that. but i like it. sometimes it's nice to try out a chord while arranging... i had no problem with polyphonic notes when playing monophonic lines.
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    @Stephane Collin said:

    Absolutely great examples, Goran.

    Thank you, Stephane, I am very, very pleased with how these turned out myself...
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    Any luck with uploading the viframe ? I am doing an experiment with your template and one with Berlin strings and at the moment you are coming out on top but I am struggling to recreate the space you have which might be in the eqs or reverb settings . I notice you have a different setting for each section ?
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    Hi again,

    I have recreated the template in ve pro ( minus the reverb and eq settings ) and it really sounds great , so thank you very much for sharing . I have a question about how best to achieve divisi writing with it . Is there a way of enabling say 6 tracks violins a and b , violas and cellos and having logic automatically split out the midi chanels so that you can play a chord and hear it in divisi ie so it only sends one note of the chord to each instrument . Basically the same way Lass does it in autoarrange . I have managed to set this up with other libraries using Kontakt with a script but the only way I can see this working with Vsl Dimension is to load all the sections in one instance and use auto voice . I did come accross something called smart scoring http://dawcontrol.com/product/smartscoring/  but I could never get it to work .

    I presume you are just playing in each part seperately which sounds great but is potentially a lot more work .
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    i have the A and B parts of the section on extra tracks in logic. for non-divisi parts i just copy the midi-recording from A to B.
    i like the idea of auto-divisi in lass. it's funny that one of the main features of dimension brass - the auto-divisi - is missing in dimension strings.
    but in the end auto-divisi in lass was not flexible enough for me as you always have the same dynamic curves for all divisi-parts.
    so i'm quite happy with the seperate tracks.
    maybe i will make track stacks in logicX for each section. you can fold them to a combined track (A & B stacked) or unfold to have them seperate. i'm in a bigger project without strings at the moment and have a new daw-mac to install. so the strings have to wait...