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  • My wishes for Vienna Instruments

    What I would like to have: multiphonics and slaptongue for bassclarinet en saxophones, dead notes for mallets, glockenspiel with pedal, different brass dampers and an accordeon. And very important for me: half pedal by vienna imperial!

    Are there any plans for it?

    Best,

    Andreas


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    @andreas1 said:

    What I would like to have: multiphonics and slaptongue for bassclarinet en saxophones, dead notes for mallets, glockenspiel with pedal, different brass dampers and an accordeon. And very important for me: half pedal by vienna imperial!

    Are there any plans for it?

    Best,

    Andreas

     

    Well now this is refreshing.  Usually when somebody posts their wish list for future VSL sample libraries it's filled with all kinds of grandiose out of the ordinary sugestions like car horns or dogs barking in Hungarian Major Scale[&][&]  Your suggestions are improvements on what's already available.  Nice[:)]  And they could be offered as upgrades rather than new libraries.  Even nicer[:D]

    To touch on your brass suggestion, I would like to see latin brass stylings myself.  I'm surprised VSL hasn't tried Latin Brass yet because we all know that Vienna, Austria is just a cacophony of Mariachi bands[ip] and Tito Puente clones roaming the streets.  That goes without saying[:P]

    A Boys Choir would be splendid.

    Okay maybe dogs barking in chromatic scale[&]  Is that too much to ask!!!!  I prevail upon you VSL!!!


  • i would like car horns and dogs barking in Hungarian Major Scale. 


  • I agree that Vienna Imperial could do with half-pedalling. I use this piano for several hours each day, and love it, but I still have to use an otherwise inferior piano for realistic pedalling.

  • [quote=jasensmith]Usually when somebody posts their wish list for future VSL sample libraries it's filled with all kinds of grandiose out of the ordinary sugestions like car horns or dogs barking in Hungarian Major Scale

    Okay, something like that I would like to have too: 

    Javanese Dimension Gamelan   Smile 

    Best, Andreas


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    @mplaster said:

    i would like car horns and dogs barking in Hungarian Major Scale. 

    Already got car horns.  [:P]

    DG


  • Car Horns? No. Bicycle Horns? Hm... No. Barking Dogs? Maybe in Octaves. Hungarian Scales? Maybe... with consideration. [:P]

    I'd expect something great that VSL can do in the future with Dimension Brass. I'd like Mutes choices for this and more articulations for it. Dimension Brass is already good on what it does. It is great to know that Dimension strings will have Con sordino library, but I'd love to see Dimension Brass with Mutes. Multiphonics are indeed something that I would like to see in the future.

    For Woodwinds, I'd expect a Bass Oboe for a next library, but I don't know. Heckelphone is quite sufficient indeed... Furthermore, I'd like to see a 2nd Clarinet and 2 more Clarinets but in A. For Brass, more mute choices. A reminder that this is just a wishlist.

    Vienna Imperial Half-Pedal is a "must" that needs to be there. Not trying to be arrogant or meanie face... [:)] A good piano sound needs half-pedaling for realistic purposes and we all know that.

    Cheers,

    Ricardo Castro


  • I'd like to see extra articulations in the Vienna Choir such as humming (mmm),  and  at some point I would really like VSL to address the lack of a second violin section,  we really shouldn't be having to fake a second violin section.

    Often,  the only sounds I use that are not VSL is drums.  I know we have Jazz Drums,  but it would be perfect if VSL had a full drum kit - though drums probably would need an exclusive player (like Vienna Imperial has for the piano).

    oh,   and something the OP suggested -   I would +1  the accordion -  that's quite Austrian isn't it?


  • One of the most neglected areas of recent times in the VSL universe is percussion.

    It would be good to have some more dynamic Tam hits - none of the current selection are particularly forte. But the most needed missing articulations in percussion are pfps (swells). At the moment with timps for example you can either  do a volume crossfade - doesn't work too well - or follow a crescendo with a dim (with slow attack) but it's a lot of extra work to create a frequently required articulation.

    So extended percussion please! particularly revisiting the timps, orchestral bass drums, cymbals, tam tams and gongs.

    Julian


  • I agree with Julian concerning the percussion.

    The plucked instruments seem kind of incomplete without a good nylon guitar sampled.

    I offered my stellar human beat box skills to the VSL team at least a year ago...  I'm still waiting for that phone call guys.  Also, I do this thing with my lips and mouth that sound exactly like a zither... send me a PM.

    [<:o)]Happy New Year everyone[<:o)]


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    @DG said:

    Already got car horns. 

     

     

    Yeah but are they in Hungarian Major scale?  Of course you could always fake it but aren't we tired of having to "fake it" with samples???


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    @DG said:

    Already got car horns. 

     

     

    Yeah but are they in Hungarian Major scale?  Of course you could always fake it but aren't we tired of having to "fake it" with samples???

    Well you do have a point. I think my Pitch wheel is in danger of becoming worn out.

    DG


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    @jasensmith said:

    The plucked instruments seem kind of incomplete without a good nylon guitar sampled.

    I believe VSL's Concert Guitar http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/496/721/534/728/422.htm has nylon strings.


  • Dogs barking in Hungarian Major Scale is quite an interesting concept.
    I'm not sure if dog barks are pitched... if not, is there a way to "make" an unpitched barking sample into something that has a tone?

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    @GallenWolf said:

    is there a way to "make" an unpitched barking sample into something that has a tone?

    Yes: book some singing lessons for the dog.


  • This dog got singing lessons:


    VSL could start with him a dog library.

  • Of the suggestions mentioned, an accordion would be really handy on occasion, and humming articulations for Vienna Choir would be magical. I'm hesitant to mention solo singers, as a lone human voice is incredibly delicate to edit seamlessly, but the VSL team did such a stellar job with the crossfades on the recorders pack that maybe there's nothing they can't do...

  • I can agree with these wishes, but would like to add: noy just an accordion. This is the past. Nowadays, the modern accordion is a concertible or a bayan. There are two discants: the normal right hand discant and the left hand discant, which can be converted to a normal accordion bas system and vice versa. All modern composers use that instrument (of course, since there are so many more possibilities).

    Best wishes to all of you.

    Jos


  • I'd like to see the Vienna version of the new 'aleatoric' libraries that are appearing. I don't own the others (Strezov and 8DIO if it's not out of order to mention them), but I already know that, when I do, I'm going to be wanting a version that I can make sit with my Vienna stuff by simply clicking the MIRx button. Although the current offerings may be very extensive there's no straight orchestral set that corresponds to them, so it's not possible to mix up 'bread and butter' writing with Psycho moments in the same piece.

    I want everything that Ligeti, Lachenmann and Penderecki ever dreamed of - sul ponticello scrubbing, sul tasto scrubbing, harmonic glissandi, controllable multiphonics, trombones doing motorbike impressions, etc, etc.


  • I totally agree with the accordion. It's currently the only instrument I am missing. There are some good VST instruments out there, http://www.ilyaefimov.com/products/keyboards/accordion.html http://virtual-acoustic.com/index.php/en/ http://www.bestservice.de/accordions.html but I would prefer a Vienna instrument. #marco