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  • VSL Keyswitch Dump for Finale

    We have a new file for our Finale users which should make the use of any of our sample libraries possible with Finale 2009 or higher. The Finale Library file "VSL Keyswitch Dump" adds MIDI Control Change and keyswitch expressions to the Expression Tool. This way articulations can be changed in the Vienna Instruments player regardless of the preset/matrix that is loaded. The layout of the score is not affected as the new expressions are hidden by default.


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  • Thanks you so much Andi!  Figuring out all the dumps in HEX has always been nightmare.


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  • Hi Andi,

       What A SUPER GREAT NEWS:)

       Thanks you very much for this one !!  

       Best,

      B


  • Fantastic.  Thank you.  I experimented with dump and VSL and it took me several tries before I found the right hex representation for a particular keyswitch midi note.  Very tedious.

    The readme says it doesn't depend on the Human Playback system which I understand and may ultimately be a good thing, but you still need HP to interpret dynamics correct?  I think it would be great to be able to turn HP off actually because I think it does some strange things especially with regard to dynamic "mis-interpretation" at least for me. 

    Another possilbility this method of keyswitch could afford is for mixing libraries.  If for example you wanted to use some GPO instruments along with VSL simply set the method of dynamics for sustaining instruments in Finale to use CC#7 + velocity then change expression in VSL to use CC#7 and even Velocity XFade to use CC#7 and use these keyswitch expressions rather than creating all the HP techniques.


  • HP has the advantage of being able to perform two actions; very good for an x y matrix. A staff expression can still only do one.

    I think these are a good adjunct, for switching matrices orAB switches.


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  • Hi winknotes_282!

    It's not necessary but it is possible to turn off Human Playback completely and still use our collections with the VSL Keyswitch Dump. The velocity values according to the dynamic marks you have written will be sent anyway. You are right that Human Playback does some addional interpretation with dynamics.

    Best,
    Andi


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  • Thank you very much!

    Michael


  • Yes!

    This makes Finale very nice to use with VSL now!  Thank you!


  • Hi and thanks for the update. But maybe I did not understand one thing: the keyswitch must be ADDED to the joints? .... That is, I have to enter the text and then add the keyswitch? Or by loading the library and then using the tools of Finale, VSL Special edition plus recognize changes in articulations and submit them correctly to the player? Thanks!

  • They are text expressions you simply insert in your score where you want a keyswitch to occur.  All the dump programming info is already programmed into each text expression and the expressions themselves are hidden text so they won't print in your score.


  • I'm very new to VSL, and I can't figure it out how to read the matrices in the manual and let them work in Finale. For instance, if you want a snap pizzicato in your violin solo (SE1), the dump would be KS F#1 according to the matrix, right? But I do not understand the principle of the Rows (V1, V2, sometimes V3) and how to exactly choose the right KS that sets the articulation as mentioned in Row V2. You get my point?


  • Hello wlasoen and welcome to the forum!

    The Special Edition and Special Edition PLUS matrices have MIDI CC1 mapped by default for Y-Axis control. So you will have to add CC1 commands to your score to switch between rows. These commands are also included in the keyswitch dump file for Finale.

    Best regards,
    Andi


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  • Hi

    I got finale to play back the key switches but it doesn't seem to be able to read the dynamic, expression and crescendo and decrescendo. I'm wondering how could I fix that? Also what are those CC1:000 stand for?

    Thank you


  • Hello Prong!

    In Finale you can set up which MIDI commands get sent to virtual instruments under Human Playback Preferences/Dynamics/Volume. Our instruments react to velocity and/or MIDI Control Changes according to your settings. If you use our instruments with Finale, I recommend the following settings in our instruments.
    Velocity X-Fade turned on and set to CC11. Expression set to None, CC12 or any other free CC that you don't use for other faders. Master Volume set to CC7. Then I would set "Dynamic Approach for Sustaining Instruments" in the aforementioned Finale menu to "Expression (CC#11) + Velocity". Please note that some earlier Finale versions had CC7 and CC11 mixed up.

    CC1:000 stands for Control Change 1, value 0.

    Best regards,
    Andi


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  • I'm unable to find the VSL Keyswitch Dump library. It's not in the Finale27 Libraries folder anyway.


  • It's in the Additionals section of the VA, under Notation


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  • @Bill said:

    It's in the Additionals section of the VA, under Notation

    I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What is VA?


  • Vienna Assistant.


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  • Thanks, Bill!


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