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    @William said:

    the methodical approach VSL has adopted is paying off immensely, because all the previous libraries blend beautifully with this new, different library.  

    Anyone willing to post a demo of the DS Violins blended with Chamber, or the DS Violins as Violin I and Chamber as Violin II... or Orchestral or Appassionata...? I'm not that concerned about it as I'm getting DS anyway (hopefully depending on VSL's willingness to hear my plea's for mercy, lol). But I'd still like to hear even a simple phrase done a few ways for comparison (if it's not too much trouble to ask of anyone).

    -Sean [:)]
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    Hi iscorefilm (and possibly many others),

    At your service.....please visit this blog dedicated to DS. See under: South by South-West.
    Enjoy!
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    @William said:

    the methodical approach VSL has adopted is paying off immensely, because all the previous libraries blend beautifully with this new, different library.  

    Anyone willing to post a demo of the DS Violins blended with Chamber, or the DS Violins as Violin I and Chamber as Violin II... or Orchestral or Appassionata...? I'm not that concerned about it as I'm getting DS anyway (hopefully depending on VSL's willingness to hear my plea's for mercy, lol). But I'd still like to hear even a simple phrase done a few ways for comparison (if it's not too much trouble to ask of anyone).

    -Sean

    iscorefilm (and all others), you can have a look at http://www.markus-brylka.de/2012-09-30_Dimension_Violins.html

    I´m working at this piece till yesterday September 29 after 6 hours and a half of downloading the 33 Giga and 1 hour of installing, registering etc 😉
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    Erik & Mbrylka,

    Thanks! Mbrylka, your video certainly showed that the solo violin sounds great with DS for sure. The South by South-West demos 1-7 answered my biggest concern. VSL has delivered again! lol The VSL Orch and DS together blend beautifully. While Chamber works I thought that DS really gave dimension (no pun intended) to the VSL Orch samples. The depth of a larger group and the individual instrument qualities you hear in a good recording were both present in that demo. That's the ideal sound I'd hope for in a string library. Superb!

    -Sean
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    I just tried my dimension strings. The portamento is very slow and sounds fake because I can hear the scale-like sounds during the portamento. It definitely cannot be used as a solo violin.
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    @ondine said:

    I just tried my dimension strings. The portamento is very slow and sounds fake because I can hear the scale-like sounds during the portamento. It definitely cannot be used as a solo violin.

    Example or I call fake! lol j/k...kind of... [;)]

    -Sean
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    The thread seemed mainly preoccupied with download speeds after this, but has this been answered? We can indeed deduce that after they are all available "somewhere in 2013", they will not be sold for the early bird offer. Yet, it does not follow that the offer will extend until somewhere in 2013.

    Anyway, elsewhere I read it's unknown yet, but guesses were ranging between mid and end of October. Sorry if this has been answered by now, but I'd much appreciate it if it could be answered - I'll suffer looking dumb over needlessly* spending 600 any day of the week!

    Exciting stuff!

    * Not to say it isn't worth that price tag!
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    Good question! One thing nobody asked at this point: Is the sample content going to be the same for every other string family? It would be rather sad to see some articulations missing in e.g. violas ...

    Also a question, that maybe current owners could answere: Does col legno have round robbins? How many?

    I am close to buying DS, however, I can only afford it for the early bird price. Since I am in the middle of renovating my studio (which is way more expensive!), I am afraid I will only be able to pull the trigger in January 2013. I sincerely hope the early bird will still be availabe then ...
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    @fritzflotow said:

    Also a question, that maybe current owners could answere: Does col legno have round robbins? How many?

     

    Col Legno has 8 round robins
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    I know this may be a bit too soon to ask, but does anyone know when in 2013 the rest of the collections will be released? I'm hoping that the next section released will be available by the end of the year. Thoughts?
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    Hi Everyone,  Perhaps my questions have already been answered, but I'm in a rush and don't have time to check.

    Two Questions:

    1)  Has it been established when the Early Bird Offer ends?  I've been on the road with no chance to do the download til now.

    2)  Is there any more concensous on a ball park length of time for the DS download?  I have a 6 core MacP with 32 gigs RAM.  I've got to schedule the download accordingly, as time is still tight.

    Thanks much.  Can't wait to use DS!      Cheers,     Tom
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    Not sure when it ends, but you only have to make the purchase before it ends, not the download.

    It took me about 12 hours to download, but it's likely faster now that the rush is over.

    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
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    Hi,  I went ahead and bought DS.  It took me 19 hours to download it.  It all went pretty smoothly.
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    @fritzflotow said:

    I have been waiting for (and expecting) this. Congrats!

    Con sordino, flautando and all the other stuff missing in 2014? 😊

    I must admit that I had expected the dim strings to have at least con sordino matrices, since they are part of the other full libraries - and it's rather strange to have sordino up and sordino down noises and no sordino samples
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    Can some people who have used D/S now comment on real-world RAM/CPU usage and requirements?

    I have a Sandybridge 920 16GB RAM and an SSD boot drive, 3 separate 7200 SATA II drives. Had no problems running Chamber Strings and EWQLO.

    Really want D/S but kinda freaked out that D/S will require a new machine. Not talking about super complex scores.

    Comments? Does it -really- need a lot more resources?

    TIA,

    ---JC
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    Suntower,

    It honestly depends on your workflow. If you are accustomed to loading EVERYTHING Chamber Strings has to offer, be advised,

    some in these forums report Dimension Violins alone wants 10 to 13 gbs of RAM but that's only if you load EVERYTHING.

    If you only load that which you'll use, you may not notice much or any RAM increase, when compared to Chamber Violins.

    Like many, I have installed DV on its own SSD. I use a separate SSD for time stretching and that function is still slow in DV.

    I haven't tried loading DV from traditional HD's, but it loads quickly from SSD's.
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    @Suntower said:

    Can some people who have used D/S now comment on real-world RAM/CPU usage and requirements?

    I have a Sandybridge 920 16GB RAM and an SSD boot drive, 3 separate 7200 SATA II drives. Had no problems running Chamber Strings and EWQLO.

    Really want D/S but kinda freaked out that D/S will require a new machine. Not talking about super complex scores.

    Comments? Does it -really- need a lot more resources?

    TIA,

    ---JC

    I've had no CPU or RAM problems, but I've found that trying to run Dimension Violins from a regular HD is pretty much useless. Unless you have enough room on your SSD, I wouldn't even bother trying.

    DG
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    Has anyone heard/read anything in regards to Dim Cellos? I'm getting ready to work on another project, and I was hoping that the Dim Cellos would released sometime soon. I know that may be a lot to ask, but is there any word on as to when? Other than "sometime in 2013" Any information would be welcome.
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    Dimension Strings are not basically different from any other VSL instruments in usage and RAM/CPU requirements, though they have the unique qualities of the Dimension recording technique.  However, they are essentially like a bundle of instruments, even though it is only "Violins" or "Violas" etc.  So you are basically looking at loading 8 instruments, for violins only. And the others will have their respective numbers.  So if you have other VSL instruments, you can estimate what that means in relation to your own system. 

    I have a fairly small system  with 24gb of RAM  that works very well with them, though of course, it is always better to have more RAM and the fastest processor.  But the nice thing is, if you run into problems with maxing out your CPU you can always simply split your final mix into segments, and freeze tracks separately.  The single largest MIDI creation ever done - Rite of Spring performed by Jay Bacal - could not have been done otherwise, at least with current technology.  So I adopted a long time ago the approach of not trying to do everything "perfectly" but staying just a little behind (rather than ahead!)  in demands upon the system, so that it is far cheaper and easier to use.  The great thing about VSL products is that they allow you to do this.  You don't have to have the most powerful system conceivable to run any of the instruments or libraries.