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    @Michael C. said:

    [...] If all instruments are loaded into VE and then send to the DAW, how do you record instruments separately?

    Mike

    Errr .... like it has been done since 30 years now - on MIDI tracks that are assigned to individual MIDI Ports / MIDI Channels of an instrument that receives MIDI data in "Multi Mode" (i.e. it behaves like several seperate instruments under one hood).

    .... or am I missing another point that hinders you from using VE Pro?

    Best,


  •  Mike, I think that there is really only one thing you need to learn. How to use a multi timbral VSTi in Sonar. Once you know that, the rest is easy and the same (or virtually the same) for all DAWs. That is the part where non Sonar users can't help you.

    DG


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    @Michael C. said:

    [...] DO NOT misinterpret my tone at times here. [...]

    No offense taken, Mike - I'm just at a loss with your problem.

    I just can't figure out how to find a meaningful way to explain how to use VE Pro to you, without using the proper terms. MIDI has been around for such a long time, it is the most basic concept behind any MIDI sequencer (as the name implies) - that's why it's a bit hard to give you advice that's both simple _and_ accurate at the same time without using its terminology.

    Has the fellow Sonar-user been able to tell you what's so different about this DAW, that tried-and-tested MIDI concepts won't work? Would be good to know ...

    BTW ... there are some nice tutorials available from the MIDI Manufacturers Association website, covering all the necessary basics: -> http://www.midi.org/aboutmidi/tutorials.php

    Kind regards,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • [Off topic PS .... we returned to the usual, well-known modus operandi: DG is faster than me. :-D ...]


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    [Off topic PS .... we returned to the usual, well-known modus operandi: DG is faster than me. 😄 ...]

     

     Hurrah. Normal business is resumed. [8-|]

    DG.


  • Mike


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    Hi Mike,

    We do not offer telephone support, but you can always call my colleagues at our US distributor, www.ilio.com, they do offer this service, and they´re MUCH better on the phone for sure! Here is their contact information.

    I think you are seeing VE PRO a bit too complicated. There´s not much routing necessary:

    1) You load your plug-ins.

    2) You assign the MIDI PORT and MIDI Channel (on top of each channel in the mixer)

    3) You assign MIDI tracks in Sonar that send MIDI information to the chosen MIDI PORT and MIDI Channel => assign Vienna Ensemble PRO on these tracks.

    4) You can mix all these signals in VE PRO. Additionally, you CAN (but you don´t have to!) route multiple audio channels back to Sonar.

    5) MIR PRO: You can use MIR PRO in the background of VE PRO, which means that your instruments will perform in a virtual hall. But that´s maybe the next step, after you have mastered VE PRO.

    Hope that helps!

    Best,

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi Mike, 

    We do not offer telephone support, but you can always call my colleagues at our US distributor, www.ilio.com, they do offer this service, and they´re MUCH better on the phone for sure! Here is their contact information

    Best,

    Paul 

    What a pity.  I was looking forward to talking to you!  I could accidently insult you in GERMAN in real time, noit just in email! [;)]

    I will call the guys at Ilio - I forgot all aobut them..  They have helped me in the past and are very nice people.

    Thanks again, Paul!!!!!!


  • Hi Mike,

    If you still are having trouble with Vienna Instruments/ensemble and Sonar 8.5, shoot me an email and we can discuss it.  I was able to get my instances playing correctly (through trial and error) but it seems to be working great now.

    Best,

    John B
    jbsoundman@gmail.com 


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    @jgbsound said:

    Hi Mike,

    If you still are having trouble with Vienna Instruments/ensemble and Sonar 8.5, shoot me an email and we can discuss it.  I was able to get my instances playing correctly (through trial and error) but it seems to be working great now.

    Best,

    John B
    jbsoundman@gmail.com 

    John,

    I think I finally get it!  It took a while and then I also switched to Sonar X1 to add to my learning curve, but things are going well now.  Thanks for your offer and I am sure I'll hit a point when I'll take you up on it!

    Mike


  • Way to hang in there Mike... Keep at it.