MIR Pro is not overpriced. Pro24 has a similar base like Pro SE, so why founding a new small version if there is a platform of Pro SE users. I worked with the demo of MIR Pro and found out that my Mac Pro 8-core is not fast enough to do all the things in a satisfying speed, so I will invest into the MIR Pro after replacing my 3,1 Mac Pro with the new one coming in April 2012. 

MIR Pro is worth the money in all functions. I am happy that the price is not higher than 800 Euro. If you earn no money with music, so just for spare time, then I agree that the price is hard to overcome, but if you earn money the price of 800 Euros is nothing against the results you can offer to the music industry. Think about it.

 As I bought MIR Pro, I was quite happy that for that technolgy, €800 was the price it needed to be, and as I mentioned previously I think it is worth it. 

But if it needs to be €800 that is fine,  so how come MIR Pro 24 halves it at €400?  with such a small difference between them, my point is, that I don't think MIR Pro 24 has enough restriction to justify the pricing difference. 

I wouldn't classify MIR Pro 24 as being a "smaller version", it's virtually the same thing.

Maybe some future updates may widen their spec further? ................

@andyjh said:

 How do you get 97 sections on one stage - there wouldn't normally be that amount of players in a complete symphony orchestra.  70 string players is still only 5 MIR entries

How are you working with MIR?

 My 1st violin section takes up 7 stage positions:

App Vln 1 x 2

Orch Vln 1 x 2

Chamb Vln 1 x 2

Solo Vln

If I wanted mutes as well, that would be 14 stage positions per section. That's already 70 for the Strings.

DG

@DG said:

 My 1st violin section takes up 7 stage positions:

App Vln 1 x 2

Orch Vln 1 x 2

Chamb Vln 1 x 2

Solo Vln

If I wanted mutes as well, that would be 14 stage positions per section. That's already 70 for the Strings.

DG

Same for me

If my memory is good (I am not in front of my music computer) winds are 30, brass are 32,....

I had 8 x VE before moving to VE PRO 5 and MIR PRO

How about offering MIR Pro12 for 200Euros, or better yet, MIR Pro1 for 20Euros?  I'm sure that would get the other convolution reverb suppliers scrambling.

I have the same Setup as DG stated, with additional ones for both LASS and Symphobia 1&2 to layer with.  My templates completely crush past the 24 icon limitation.

I see what some of you are trying to say about the price, but I still feel I got a great deal because I purchased the original MIR and got my upgrades for free.  On top of this, compared to purchasing a Bricasti and other hardware units, you still save a lot of money.  Not to forget how easy MIR PRO is to work with for instant decent/great results.  Some people who only play solo piano and maybe solo violin might have some heartburn over this but for me, I felt I got a great deal paying full price for MIR.

Maestro2be

okay, at less than half the cost then.   :-)

@Dietz said:

 MIR Pro 24 is mainly meant as a friendly offer for those professional MIR users who need a second or third license for slave computers 

It depends how you calculate it [;)]

MIR PRO =  100 instruments = 800 Euro = 8 euro per instrument (If I use IAC, less if I use Event input on the best Mac availlable))

MIR PRO 24 = 24 instruments = 400 euro = 16.67 euro per instrument

Today you cannot use the full power(1) of a 12 core Macpro ( only 60 %)

At 60 % of power used you get hanging notes

If you cannot fix the hanging note problem ;  MIR PRO sould have the same licencing rules than VE PRO 5, 3 serials per user

Best regards

Cyril

(1) if we could have the number of voice used we could make better calculation

Cyril, what is the hanging note problem? I've never noticed this on my system. Can you be more specific as to what causes it?

DG

Hi DG, 

If I may jump in here: Hanging notes do occur in combination with the Multiport Environment we have established specifically for Logic. Unfortunately Logic sometimes randomly drops notes internally (the heavier the traffic, the more likely this occurs). 

This is something we are working on together with the Logic developers (it cannot be solved by VSL alone, as pointed out in many posts and also in the changelogs and manuals). 

Best, 

Paul

@Paul said:

Hi DG, 

If I may jump in here: Hanging notes do occur in combination with the Multiport Environment we have established specifically for Logic. Unfortunately Logic sometimes randomly drops notes internally (the heavier the traffic, the more likely this occurs). 

This is something we are working on together with the Logic developers (it cannot be solved by VSL alone, as pointed out in many posts and also in the changelogs and manuals). 

Best, 

Paul

OK, so there is no problem with VE Pro then. So Cyril is asking for a discount just because he chose to use a particular sequencer? [:O]

DG

Hi, 

To be fair, we have found out about this bug too late. 

However, we´re determined to get this right for all Logic users out there, and the Logic developers are also contributing (Logic 9.1.7 is already a step in the right direction). 

But I don´t want to highjack this thread. 

Best, 

Paul

Hi DG

I use the same piece since years to do my tests The hanging note problems is happening with Event input and Multiport but NOT with IAC.

It's pitty that I dont have the tools to analyse more the problem, but it is comming since VE PRO / MIR PRO

The question is why THERE IS NO HANGGING NOTE USING IAC and 5.1 / 7.1 ?

Why there no Hanging notes with MIR STEREO ?

Why there is Hanging notes in 5.1 and 7.1

May be the programmers of VSL should have a look at this to put a trap in the software to see what is really happening !

I love MIR PRO but this hagging note problem is bugging me !

Best

Cyril

@Cyril said:

Hi DG

I use the same piece since years to do my tests The hanging note problems is happening with Event input and Multiport but NOT with IAC.

It's pitty that I dont have the tools to analyse more the problem, but it is comming since VE PRO / MIR PRO

 It seems to me that the answer is obvious. Don't use Multiport.

DG

@Cyril said:

Hi DG

I use the same piece since years to do my tests The hanging note problems is happening with Event input and Multiport but NOT with IAC.

It's pitty that I dont have the tools to analyse more the problem, but it is comming since VE PRO / MIR PRO

 It seems to me that the answer is obvious. Don't use Multiport.

DG

VSL answer is not to use IAC !

 Cyril, could you PLEASE edit your signature down to a reasonable length?  It consumes most of the screen space on these threads...

@Bill said:

 Cyril, could you PLEASE edit your signature down to a reasonable length?  It consumes most of the screen space on these threads...

You are the only one to complain !

VSL have ask to have all the configuration in the signature, so if VSL ask me to shorten it I will do so [;)]