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  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hello Sergino and JT3_Jon, 

    You have purchased Vienna Ensemble 3, when Epic Orchestra was not available. 

    This same license was used for Vienna Ensemble PRO 4 (which was a free upgrade from VE 3), and there was the option to add the Epic Orchestra for around 50 Euros, IIRC. This offer was available for 1 and a half months....

    If you still want to add Epic Orchestra for a certain fee, I´ll see what I can do for you. In any case, Epic Orchestra is not sold as a separate product, so it would be an exception for loyal customers.

    Please contact me at  and we´ll see what´s possible. 

    Best, 

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Thank you Paul. I didn't mean to accuse you[8-|].

    It was just to precise that not every one got the library, with a sort of tipical irony from Toscany (ever been in Florence or Livorno?).

    I didn't get the library because I thought it wouldn't add much to my libraries, but if you think it does, please write an email to me with your new offer.
    Thanks
    Sergino
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
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    Hi Sergino,

    No problem [:)]

    The Epic Orchestra is best described here, so you can check whether there are any new samples you might not have. And the instruments are mostly mapped as multi-instruments.

    And there is the overview video where you can hear it.

    Up to you - just contact me if you´re interested:

    Best,

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Hi everyone,

    will VEP 5 support 10.5.8? 

    Best,

    Claude
  • PaulP
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    Hi Claude, 

    @cc64 said:

    will VEP 5 support 10.5.8? 

    Yes [:)]

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Excellent[<:o)]

    Thanks Paul!

    Claude
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    Hi Paul, according to an "old" (23/8/2011) VSL Press Release published on S.O.S. (http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=14218): "Both new applications, Vienna MIR PRO and Vienna Ensemble PRO 5, will be released simultaneously in October 2011. Upgrade paths and introductory offers will be available." Now, since it seems that this deadline has been missed (we are currently in November...), can you please update the ETA for this brilliant application of yours. I'm asking because I'm literally drooling for the "Circumvents Audio Units' 16 MIDI channel limitation per Vienna Ensemble Pro instance (for Logic and Digital Performer)" feature!!! ;-) TIA Arceo
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi Arceo, 

    I´m recording the video tutorials already. Manuals are being written and translated, and our developers are adding the finishing touches, hunting down the last minor bugs!

    Looks good already, and we´re doing our best to make the software available around mid november. 

    Thanks for your patience, it will be worth it! 

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Thank you, thank you, thank you! You made my day! It's such a good news knowing that VEP5's going to be released in 10 days or so...! I'm a very happy costumer since VEP4 has helped a lot to raise the efficiency of my rig. It has been rock solid since the first day I installed it; my only (minor) complain was about being forced to use multiple servers (thanks to poor AU specs. I'm a DP user) loosing CPU power. Seems like in few days I'll be left without any reason to complain ;-)
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    So just to repeat myself. Anyone at VSL check if VEP 5 solves the Play 3 Slow Load problem?
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    @dagmarpiano said:

    So just to repeat myself. Anyone at VSL check if VEP 5 solves the Play 3 Slow Load problem?

    I have SSDs for both Hollywood strings and brass and have had no problems with slow load times on a Mac Pro

    Rik
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    @dagmarpiano said:

    So just to repeat myself. Anyone at VSL check if VEP 5 solves the Play 3 Slow Load problem?

    Hi Dan ,

    on a MacPro (OS X 10.6.7 ) I still have PLAY3 libraries on regular  HDD's  ( WesternDigital  WDC WD1002FAEX , 64MB Cache ) ,

    using a permanent 12GB setup of EastWest's HS and HB hosted within VEPRO.

    Actually the loading times for this setup dropped from some 20minutes with PLAY2+VEPRO to some 6min with PLAY3+VEPRO.

    ( Please note :

    loading big patches of EastWest's HS directly within Logic9 , however , is by faaaar not as fast as loading them within VEPRO .

    It's indeed very slow. In my case not usable . This might be also the case for Cubase on Mac , but I'm specualting here. )

    If you suffer from slow loading times ( - PLAY3 hosted within VEPRO - ) this might be related to some other factor on your system.

    Don't think that VEPRO is the bottleneck here.

    Maybe one or more of the following general things  might improve loading times of PLAY3 patches in VEPRO on your iMac:

    1.

    In PLAY 3 enable the checkbox "Fast Disk Mode" / Engine Level "Medium"

    2.

    When you've actually loaded a PLAY3 set into a VEPRO-Instance , save this instance under an appropriate name.

    The next time you'll load this VEPRO-Instance the PLAY3 patches will load faster.

    3.

    Kontakt's memory server and PLAY's memory server still don't like each other that much.

    If possible try to load your PLAY patches before you load your KONTAKT patches.

    Of course , this only works with permanent samplelibrary setups.

    4.

    Always use VEPRO in "decoupled" mode in combination with Logic ( ... and I assume that's a good advice for Cubase , too ).

    5. 

    One more important thing which affects only PLAY3 on Mac , due to the way it interacts with OS X :

    In general, loading & unloading PLAY3 patches will step by step slow down your particular iMac system, which is limited to 16GB RAM.

    Reason : PLAY3 loads lots of info into the Inactive RAM , and depending how many PLAY3 patches you will load and unload,

    sooner or later OS X will begin to "swap" onto the system  HD ,  something which  will then simply slow down loading times for new samples and/or 

    the overall performance of your system slows down.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Best

    Gerd
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    @gerdkaeding_31947 said:

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    Always use VEPRO in "decoupled" mode in combination with Logic ( ... and I assume that's a good advice for Cubase , too ).

    ...well here lies the problem. It's extremely convenient for me to use it in "coupled" mode so that all my Play 3 sounds are tailored and edited specially for each track that I'm working on. Working with big preset templates that you can load directly into VE PRO is fine for orchestral-based productions but when you move into pop or hybrid productions it's more natural to get into heavy editing of sounds just for each track, in a way which will be tweaked many times while the track is in development. In this scenario it's much more convenient to have the Play 3 sounds load up via the host (Cubase for me), which is where this slow-load bug is coming from.

    I do TRY to load in templates etc. directly into VE PRO where I can, but to do it consistently I'd have to commit myself to the creation of masses of VE PRO presets for each instrument, each piece of music and each version of each project and for me that's not worth the effort.

    So, for my way of working this slow load bug is a pain in the butt.

    😊
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    Ah , okay , I see . Well , then I hope this slow load thing get's ironed out

    Best

    Gerd
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    @V_ad_im said:

    Is VE Pro 5 merged in one programm, or, such as in version 4, still exists as server and standalone different programs?
    Paul, yes or no? Because it is general factor for my to upgrade vepro to 5 version
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi V_ad_im. 

    Yes.

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    VEPro 5 acts just like VEPro 4 in terms of dividing the application between server and standalone use.
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    Hi all, new to the forums. I have a question, which may or may not have been asked before. Will VE Pro 5 allow for connectivity of both the 32 bit and 64 bit servers through one instance? Essentially allowing you to use both 32 bit and 64 bit plugs in one instance of ensemble pro?
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    i have never had this sort of impatience for a program. lol i check this site 3 times a day it seems.
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    Same here, I have had VE Pro for only 2-3 months, and in that short time I can't imagine how I got along without it. Now it seems its going to address the few details that stopped it short of being the perfect solution, which for me was being able to automate plug-ins hosted in VE. However if they somehow manage to really bridge the gap between 32 bit and 64 bit, that would be phenomenal. Imagine using 32-bit plugs side-by-side 64-bit on one instance...like loading a 32 bit waves plug in the fx rack of a 64 bit kontakt for example. Not sure if this is even technically achievable though, but .