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  • Appassionata dynamics

    Hi! What is the reason for the appassionata strings not having any ff dynamics? Not complaining, just wanting to know. I'm sure there's a rational explanation for this. :D

    Another thing I'm wondering is this. Is there a place where one can find some explanations how to understand the different patch settings in the manuals. For example the patch:

    VI-20_perf-legato_4vel
    Legato/portamento, 4 velocity sustains
    Monophonic
    4 velocity layers: Legato: 0–88 mp; 89–127 mf
    Portamento: 0–88 p; 89–127 f
    Sustains: 0–55 p; 56–88 mp; 89–108 mf; 109–127 f
    Release samples
    AB switch: legato/portamento

    What does 4 velocity sustains mean? What means 4 velocity layers: Legato: 0–88 mp; 89–127 mf Portamento: 0–88 p; 89–127 f, because I think I'm getting the f dynamic with the legato sound also, not only with the portamento. etc.


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    Hello Sami

    Several articulations are recorded with certain "resolutions".

    So the articulation "sustain" was recorded with 4 different levels (layers) p mp mf f.

    The articulation perf-legato was recorded with two levels (legato... includes the "crossing-sound" between two notes such as portamento) = VI-20_perf_legato

    VSL also combined then the sustain-articulations (4levels) with the legato-crossing-sounds of the legato-patches. = VI-20_perf-legato_4vel

    So the legato crossing sounds of the 0-88 are combined with the sustains 0-55 and 56 - 88

    and the legato crossing sounds of 89-127 are used together with the sutstains 89-108 and 109-127.

    BTW: Those 4level-legato-articulations are very useful togehter with the Velocity-Xfade-function > nice crescendos/diminuendos are possible:

    Bach: Air (first part is with Chamberstrings II / second part is with Appassionatas I)

    BTW 2: I believe there are "sustain espressivo" - articulations > sound good for ff parts.

    Best

    Beat


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
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    Thank you so much Beat for this informative answer.Now I get it.

    @Beat Kaufmann said:

    BTW 2: I believe there are "sustain espressivo" - articulations > sound good for ff  parts.

    If I read the manuals correctly, those espressivo patches exist in the orchestral strings but not in appassionata. Of course the appassionatas are pretty "expressive" all the time. 😄


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    @Sami Boman said:

    ...If I read the manuals correctly, those espressivo patches exist in the orchestral strings but not in appassionata. Of course the appassionatas are pretty "expressive" all the time. 😄

    Sorry my dear, I didn't use the correct expression.

    The name is VI-20_sus_Vib_strong / VA-14...  within the Appassionatas.

    It's not always easy to know all the correct expressions from memory [:$]

    All the best

    Beat


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/