I was on the verge of acquiring VE Pro, and then decided to test MIR SE - seeing as it also can host 3rd party vsti's now..  and as I feared, I liked what MIR can do for me quite a bit.  [Y]

I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to proceed though - the bulk of my composing work takes place in Finale.  Because of how Finale functions, the way VE Pro works (by loading itself as a vst in Finale, but at the same time functioning and hosting the libraries externally) is ideal - it circumvents certain limitations of Finale, but at the same time keeps its playback happy.   At present MIR has to be run externally and connected by midi - this does not work very well with Finale, it is a nightmare I had to deal with in the past and do not wish to return to.  From what I understand, MIR Pro would be the obvious solution to this as it would combine the best of both of the existing applications..    is this how it will work?  Will MIR Pro load itself as a vst while still operating externally?  Will there be an "SE Pro" version as well?

And the question that concerns me most right now (and I know this has been brought up in this thread before, but there was no answer), if I were to buy VE Pro so that I can work now, will MIR Pro render this purchase redundant in only a few weeks (or months)?

I’m very impressed with the new Hybrid reverb! I hope that you include the new algo-tail used in Hybrid in the new MIR Pro.

Hello Dietz

Did you manage to go over the 16 midi channel with Logic ?

If you need a beta tester with a 12 Core 2.93 ghz Mac, 24 GB, raid 0 of 4 x ssd, I am volunteer !

Best

Cyril

@jammusique said:

I’m very impressed with the new Hybrid reverb! I hope that you include the new algo-tail used in Hybrid in the new MIR Pro.

Yes, we have plans to do so. As a matter of fact that's one of the reasons why the release of MIR Pro won't happen before the end of spring.

@Cyril said:

Hello Dietz

Did you manage to go over the 16 midi channel with Logic ?

If you need a beta tester with a 12 Core 2.93 ghz Mac, 24 GB, raid 0 of 4 x ssd, I am volunteer !

Best

Cyril

Hi Cyril, thanks for volunteering! 😊

Yes, there will be a workaround for Logic's restrictions.

@Dietz said:

Yes, we have plans to do so. As a matter of fact that's one of the reasons why the release of MIR Pro won't happen before the end of spring.

Isn't it the end of spring in Austria allready? In Finland it most definitely is. We so desperately yearn for the mighty MIR Pro. 😄

Well my non AC office tells me it is mid summer ...

But End of spring is always good date, can be weather dependent, astronomical, or even meteorological;(

Guys, we really appreciate your impatience :-)) ... but "not before the end of spring" means "summer".

Dietz, can you perhaps shed some light on the new workflow for user who are already used to the current version of MIR? I know that certain "trade secrets" cannot be fully exposed yet. But it would be much appreciated if we can have an idea in order to get ready for any major changes, if required.

The basic idea of MIR ("conducting a virtual orchestra on a virtual stage") will remain the same, which means that you will be familiar instantly with the the actual MIR GUI (although it got re-coded almost from the ground up). Apart from that, you will use MIR Pro like you would use Vienna Ensemble Pro - closely integrated into the DAW of your choice.

In the end, this means that you don't have to deal with two (or more) completely seperated applications any more. Regarding the workflow you may have developed with the existing version of MIR, this might be the biggest difference (... and we hope that this change will receive a warm welcome even by die-hard MIR users ;-) ...) .

Kind regards,

Thanks Dietz. That's great news! Can't wait:)

Here's to hoping for an upgrade path from VEP! [;)]

An upgrage path from the current version of MIR is quite certain, but from VEP is unlikely.

Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

This is a big question, do I sell it with a friendly price and I sell it to all my user or do I put it too high so only professional studio can afford it 

I hope VSL's marketing has chose the 1st solution

• 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
• 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

This is THE dilemma [:D]

The marketing idea is to sell MIR with just a few room so it is cheap to users ; and then you can buy more rooms when you can afford 

It is the same marketing idea that the "new download instrument", SE ...  

Best

Cyril

Lol - Nice try Cyril, but I think the finance and marketing guys might have other ideas!

[:)]

@Cyril said:

Look absolutely great, let's hope that the price will be as friendly so all user can afford MIR PRO.

• 10 000 user x 200 euro = 2 000 000 euro
• 200 big studio x 2 000 euro = 400 000 euro

@Dietz said:

In the end, this means that you don't have to deal with two (or more) completely seperated applications any more. Regarding the workflow you may have developed with the existing version of MIR, this might be the biggest difference (... and we hope that this change will receive a warm welcome even by die-hard MIR users 😉 ...) .

Kind regards,

We know that many of you have developed nice basic templates for MIR. We have put quite some effort into the possibility of an easy transition from Vienna MIR to MIR Pro for our users. But you have to be aware of the fact that under the hood they are _completely_ different programs. Our developers have some ideas how to make "old" MIR Projects work with the new engine, but I can't promise you that you won't have to rebuild existing setups.

Thanks for your understanding!

Hi, Can you guys clarify this "end of spring" MIR Pro release time?  I've now heard that it probably won't be released till late summer.  Correct?  Understandable, if there are still issues, but I'll need to stop holding my breath if need be.             Cheers,   Tom

Hi Tom,

please stop holding your breath! ;-D

Actually, MIR Pro is more or less ready, but we will work another two months on it: We've decided to implement the possibities that were introduced with the new Hybrid Reverb into MIR, too. :-) Apart from that, we will do an extended testing phase due to the fact that MIR Pro will also be OS-X compatible, which is always a challenge.

Thanks for your patience,