194,281 users have contributed to 42,914 threads and 257,948 posts.
In the past 24 hours, we have 2 new thread(s), 18 new post(s) and 90 new user(s).
Dear Stephen,
the explanation on p. 38 of the MIR manual and especially the screenshot on p. 39 should make it clearer. :-)
[URL=http://img34.imageshack.us/i/mirdirectivityprofiles.jpg/][IMG]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3879/mirdirectivityprofiles.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Kind regards
Thanks Dietz,
I loaded the dimensional Horns into MIR, voiced a four part Horn section and pressed play. I WAS BLOWN OUT OF MY CHAIR!!!!!
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A REAL HORN SECTION. It is the first time, I have heard a midi horn section rendered with this detail. Usually midi Horn Sections are just loud. Thanks to all who made this possible!
Regards,
Stephen W. Beatty
http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty
@Stephen W. Beatty said:
[...]3. Is the VI Pro software able to integrate into MIR like the Standard Vienna Instrument does?
No, not yet, sorry to say so. We are working on it. [...]
WHO WAS WRITING THAT?!?! [8o|] Oh, that was me .... [*-)]
SORRY!!!!! I WAS SIMPLY WRONG!!!!! I misread your message and thought you were asking about the integration of Dimension Brass and MIR.
OF COURSE Vienna Instruments Pro is able to integrate into MIR like the standard VI. There's even an option to convert existing MIR Projects to VI Pro.
Sorry for the confusion.
Hmm.... I just used the VI Pro instruments on this mix -
www.williamkersten.com/page13.html
On this I wanted to control the individual players more, so loaded each player as a separate instrument but then they had various doublings or splitting as would happen in an ensemble. However I did NOT use the general purpose instruments as Dietz said, but the trumpet ensemble, horn ensemble and trombone ensemble which I shrunk down a little for each player. Is that not kosher? It is probably a weird way of doing it. But I was thinking that they are both ensemble and solo and wasn't sure which instrument template to use since there wasn't anything specifically for Dimension Brass.
@William said:
[...] However I did NOT use the general purpose instruments as Dietz said, but the trumpet ensemble, horn ensemble and trombone ensemble which I shrunk down a little for each player. Is that not kosher? [...]
You know - if it sounds right, it is right ... but technically spoken it's not the proper way of doing it. The MIR Instrument Profiles take into account crucial parameters like the angle of the microphone during the original recording in respect to the instrument, the distance between them, the spatial frequency dispersion of a specific instrument, etc.etc. Of course, the recording setups for Dimension Brass were _very_ different from the ones that were used for the original Vienna Instruments.
Kind regards,
o.k. I'm going to re-do that which won't be hard, but if I'm using separate individual Dimension instruments should I use that "general purpose" cardioid setup and shrink it down to one-player size? I have four separate tracks for each instrument of each ensemble. They sometimes play the same thing, at other times play divisi. I was panning them in MIR as if they were solo instruments even though I used the ensemble setups. So doing this I would simply substitute the general purpose instrument and still be able to shrink them to individual solo instrument size? thanks.
Yes, exactly. Cardioid is always a good starting point for brass instruments.
Keep in mind that you will have to re-select any Character Presets you have chosen, too, as they are tailor made for almost each and every instrument. The General Purpose profiles contain just very generic settings.
OF COURSE Vienna Instruments Pro is able to integrate into MIR like the standard VI. There's even an option to convert existing MIR Projects to VI Pro.
So you can download VI PRO, when you install it does MIR recognize it instead of the standard VI?
Thanks,
Stephen W. Beatty
As I work through the instructive videos, I am continually impressed by the depth of the Vienna Instruments Pro. Thank Paul S and Herb for the great audio/visuals. However, I am still wondering if the panning function or reverb function is used in VI Pro, how does this affect the icon in MIR. For example, If two patches of Violins are added to one instance and one is panned left and one right in VI Pro to reflect a von Dohnyani seating arrangement for 1st and 2nd violins, where should the icon for the instance be placed in MIR? My guess is in the center, but I am not sure.
Regards,
Stephen W. Beatty
Stephen, actually it is very simple: The MIR Icon's stereo width (shown by the outer ellipse) defines the possible 100% of left-right-panorama in any signal put on stage.
Putting a first and a second violin in the same MIR Icon doesn't seem to be a good idea for me, though ...
