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  • Hi Jonathan,

    Thanks! Yes you need to make sure the notes are connected to hear the legato sound. This is best done using the sequencer overlay feature (hit TAB) and drag the note ends/starts to ensure they are connected.

    You will find that if you use Step Time or pure notation and then put a slur, you wont have to do any of that.

    Hope this helps, let me know if you need more assistance.

    Lubo Astinov


  • Hi Lubo

    Thank you very much for your help, it is much appreciated.

    While you are available, can I just ask you one more unrelated question? I have created a melody for solo violin in Logic which I would like to import into Notion as a midi file. I have tried this; however when I do, it has removed all information regarding the key signature, which if I am honest, I expected it to. So, when i look at the score, it is full of accidentals.

    My assumption was that if I changed the key signature, it would remove all the excess accidentals from the staff. It doesn't. How do i get over this problem? Additionally, notion has removed ties, and replace them with double dotted notes. How do I change this back? Is it a preferences issue.

    Sorry to barrage you with questions, but I need to resolve these issues.

    Thanks

    Jonathan


  • Hi Lubo

    I apologise, I have made a slight mistake. Let me give you a little more detail. The melody I have written in Logic is in Eb Minor (6 flats). I am converting that region into a midi file and then opening up a new score in Notion by importing it. When I do, the staff has no key signature and, as you would expect, the melody is overflowing with accidentals. When I change key to Eb Minor and drag the 6 flats onto the staff, the accidentals DO change. This was my mistake. However what made me think they didn't (due to not looking closely enough!) was that all the G flats, were being notated as sharpened F's, and similarly the C flats's were being shown as naturalised B's. This although technically correct, is an illogical way to notate the melody. 

    Am I able to get around this problem? 

    Thanks

    Jonathan

    P.s. My problem regarding the ties still stands.


  • Hello Lubo and everyone,

    I'd like to know if there is someone who use rewire to link Notion SLE and Nuendo 4, or viceversa, under Windows XP?

    I'm not able to do it and I'd like to know if it is an specific issue of my system.

    Thanks in advance.

    Best Regards.

    Paco Monge.


  • Hi Paco,

    I dont have Nuendo, but I have ReWired SLE into Cubase4. Since they are closely related, I would imagine they would have to both work. I'm not sure what the problem might be, but I'd start with updating ReWire and Nuendo and making sure both apps run in 32 bit mode etc...

    Sorry I'm not of much help, did you try the steinberg forums ?

    Lubo Astinov


  • Hi Jonathan,

    You can do several things - you can use the Enharmonic tool to correct the notes (Shift+E), you could click-select the note and use Shift+Up or Down arrow - this will give you chromatic transposition and you can move the note up or down untill you get the right pitch, or you can try Transposing the passage to another key (like A Minor) and then transpose it back to Eb minor (not sure how this will go, but just a suggestion to try).

    However, another idea is to avoid the MIDI route all together. I'm not sure about Logic, but I know Cubase supports MusicXML export. If Logic does, I'd highyl recommend using MusicXML files because the level of accuracy is much higher (this is true for any scoring application, not just NOTION). This will also solve the tie issue...

    Hope this works out.

    Lubo Astinov


  •  Thanks Lubo,

    I will give it a try. I think logic does support MusicXML. Great suggestions. I will let you know how it works.

    Thanks

    Jonathan


  • Lubo,

    Hi

    I see that both Perf-rep staccato and Perf-rep legato sound are already in the N3 SE Presets.

    So, Do N3 actually use those sound or will use?

    For now when writing repeated staccatos it looks that N3 only use standard Staccato sound.

    Is there way to make N3 using Perf-rep sound.

    Thanks

    Again,

    more I use N3 more I love that...

    N3 is GREAT

    Alain


  • Hey there Alain,

    Yes we do plan on supporting those, perf-rep staccato will be easier , we will find some of way of incorporating the perf-rep legato as well.

    Those will come in future updates, yes :)

    Lubo Astinov


  • Wow...

    I just download the N3 last update...

    The new palette presentation and features is simply Wonderful !

    Dreaming or opening existing files is faster ?

    Eager to see next updates...

    i iiii iiiiii ....

    Alain


  •  Alain got me curious with his enthusiasm.  So is there no "new" Palette or even update available for Notion SLE user yet?


  • It hurts to say this but since I bought the VSL Special Edition, I have had many problems with Notion. The files that have VSL sounds won't even open so I can change them back to N3 sounds. I almost wish I didn't spend the $900 plus. In my opinion THE N3 sounds are as good as the VSL sounds. I am kind of at a loss here. If anyone can help me please respond. Thanks - Tony

  • Hi Yanick,

    An update for SLE will be released soon as well. The change in the palette is basically moving the expressions from the second row, into a dedicated category on the top row :)

    Lubo Astinov


  • Hi Anthony,

    I'm more than happy to help. I'll need some more information first...

    "The files that have VSL sounds won't even open so I can change them back to N3 sounds"

    Which files are you refering to ? In NOTION3 or SLE ? NOTION3 doesn't have a any files that have VSL sounds. If you mean the presets they are in score setup. I will need some more details here.

    "I almost wish I didn't spend the $900 plus"

    Special Edition is a fantastic library, I really think once we sort your problems out you will see how gorgeous it can sound. I assure you you made a very good choice by purchasing it.

    Let me know what are the problems you are running into and I'll do my best to help. The best thing is to explain the issue step-by-step and what your desired outcome is vs. the actual issue.

    Thanks.

    Lubo Astinov


  • Dear Lubo,
    I have a little problem... I transfered a midi file in notion,it is a string orchestra composition, everythings were Masterhanded (lol )
    but i couldn't group the whole composition with barline group, it have no effect on the composing...
    I sent to you a copy of the file in a notion file , can you have a look ???
    thank you

  • Hi Pro-Arte,

    When did you send me the Email? I think I haven't received it or it may have gone in the spam folder by mistake.

    Anyway, Try selecting the whole score and then going to Staff Groups - Make Barline Group. This should group the entire score.

    Let me know if it works

    Lubo Astinov


  • Lubo: I have been testing "changing an instrument" on the same staff. My findings to date are: 1. The program (NOTION SLE) quits most of the time when trying to click the instrument on the staff once it has been selected. 2. When it does work, if you play from the beginning (using the original instrument that was selected), the playback is "silent." In other words, once you select a "new" instrument down the line or further ahead on the same staff, the previous instrument does not playback when the cursor moves over its notes. Any help or advice appreciated. Johann

  • Hello, Lubo.

    Here's what I have going on:

    Notion3, latest update, using Vienna Instruments (not VE Pro) Saxes AATTB, Fl I, Fl II, Oboe (Vienna) Bb Clarinet, and Bassoon, with articulations from the Download versions of each instrument.  Everything plays and sounds fine, until I use one or both of the flutes.  Then, I hear what sounds like crackling you might hear when an instrument red-lines, which is not indicated on the mixer.  Eventually, the playback will freeze for a couple of minutes, then continue with stuck notes until I restart the piece.

    I'm wondering if I have reached already some kind of limit for my computer system (in my signature). I'd like to see if anyone knows about this kind of thing occurring in any other setup.

    Thanks


  • Hi Johan,

    I tried recreating the problem here but it worked fine for me. Here is what I did:

     1. Inserted a Violins I preset in the score

     2. Clicked on Violins I and hit Shift+I to bring up the Shift Instrument Dialog

     3. Clicked on the New Instrument button

     4. Chose a Flute and hit OK

     5. Back in the Shift  Instrument dialog I selected Voice 2 for the flute and l;eft it on default channel and hit OK

    Both instruments were playing correctly - the violins were triggered on voice 1 and voice 2 triggered flute notes.

    Are you not getting the same result if you follow the steps above?

    Lubo Astinov


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    @dayadon said:

    Hello, Lubo.

    Here's what I have going on:

    Notion3, latest update, using Vienna Instruments (not VE Pro) Saxes AATTB, Fl I, Fl II, Oboe (Vienna) Bb Clarinet, and Bassoon, with articulations from the Download versions of each instrument.  Everything plays and sounds fine, until I use one or both of the flutes.  Then, I hear what sounds like crackling you might hear when an instrument red-lines, which is not indicated on the mixer.  Eventually, the playback will freeze for a couple of minutes, then continue with stuck notes until I restart the piece.

    I'm wondering if I have reached already some kind of limit for my computer system (in my signature). I'd like to see if anyone knows about this kind of thing occurring in any other setup.

    Thanks

    You could be reaching the app limit yes. What I would recommend is save those .fxp presets that you have in the VI instances and use a custom VE preset with assigned channels but make sure you run the 64-bit server first.

    Hope that helps..

    Lubo Astinov