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    @nuno_estrela5 said:

    Hi Lubo,

    Notion is really great, and I intend to buy notion 3, but i'm also a sibelius user, and to be honest, to me ideally, i would use sib to edit the score and use it with notion for the realization of the same. But as you must know sibelius does not export Musicxml, and the dolet plugin is really expensive. I found sibtoly that is a free plugin, but exports plain xml and not musicxml. Do you know any other way to do it ( i know you can export midi, but you loose to much information and would not be practical if you are going back and forward with sibelius).

    Thanks so mush 

    Nuno

    Hi Nuno,

    I wish I could give you a good solution, but right now Sibelius doesn't offer a free MusicXML exporter and I don't know if there is one. What I would do is probably work the other way around - create your score in NOTION first for the performance you want, and then export a MusicXML file out to Sibelius to finish your score.

    NOTION3 gives you MusicXML import and Export without the need of purchasing third-party plugins.

    Hope this helps.

    Lubo Astinov


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    @Johann said:

    Hi Lubo: I'm having the same problem that Dennis (Dayadon) is having. I have 8 total instruments loaded on my Mac Pro 2.66 Ghz computer with 4 GB of RAM and I'm hearing "crackling" sounds also. My Mac "Activity Monitor" says my CPU is using about 50%. Also, when I went through the exercise of "changing the name of an instrument," my computer crashed more than 5 times when clicking on the icon that brings up the dialog box for changing instrument names. Seems like NOTION SLE is a very touchy program. I first research the procedure for what I want to do; then, when carrying out some of the steps, the program automatically just quits. Takes awhile to reboot. Will keep trying to make it work. Meanwhile, I ordered NOTION3. I want to work with the London Symphony for awhile to see if it is any different than working with VSL in NOTION SLE. Johann

    Hi Johan,

    For the first problem - the crackling etc, I would again recommend that if you are building a large score the best route to go is with the VE PRO Custom presets, or simply use the Full Score Template (the one with 4 instances of VE PRO) and start the 64 bit server first. Then connect each instance to the 64 bit server and you should be fine.

    For the crashes - I haven't been able to reproduce them at all here, I'm changing instrument names both through score setup and with double-clicking etc. Best way for me to help would be if you could send me a score which you know crashes and I can try it out.

    One suggestion I can think of is - try changing your keyboard layout to English, if its not already in that mode. Another is - make sure both VI and VE are using the latest official builds.Also - did you get a crash report? Did you send those to us?

    Just send me the score and let me have a look.

    Thanks

    Lubo Astinov


  •  Thank You Lubo ,

    by the way, what cut circle is supposed to do ?[:$]

    P-A


  • Lubo,

    Same question as P.A.

    Articulation:

    Circle = Harmonic,

    Cut circle = (suppose to trigger what?)

    Semi-cut Circle = Bartok Pizz

    Thanks

    Alain


  • Hi Lubo: I sent the score to you in the form of a "reply" to your email. Maybe it won't get to you this way. I can't see any way to ATTACH a file to an email when replying to a message in the NOTION SLE thread. My score is NOT LARGE. Only 4 Strs and 4 WWs. I am working at 32 bit only with Mac OS X 10.4.11. Will research how to change keyboard layout to English. Didn't know that was a requirement. And, I'm only using Vienna Instruments Special Edition (standard). I don't have the "extended" version yet. Also, I don't use Vienna Ensemble. The crash reports I get say they are returned to an Apple location. Didn't know they automatically went back to you at NOTION SLE at the VSL website. If the score doesn't reach you, I will mail it to your email address. Thank you, Johann

  • Hi Lubo

    I am trying to get Notion SLE to act as a rewire slave to Logic 8. I have enabled rewire in the preferences. I made sure that I opened Logic first.

    I then tried to create a new aux strip, but when i choose an input, Notion SLE isn't there as rewire option. Can you help please?

    Jonathan


  •  Hi - I purchased Notion SLE . Very nice product. However, I cannot see any reference to (preset?) the Appassionata strings that come with the VI Special Edition Extended Library. Am I missing something?

    Thanks

    Patrick


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    @Jonathan Price said:

    Hi Lubo

    I am trying to get Notion SLE to act as a rewire slave to Logic 8. I have enabled rewire in the preferences. I made sure that I opened Logic first.

    I then tried to create a new aux strip, but when i choose an input, Notion SLE isn't there as rewire option. Can you help please?

    Jonathan

    Hi Jonathan,

    Sometimes some permissions issues have prevented the NOTION rewire bundle being copied. This may be the cause for the problem.

    Try this for a solution: Go to Applications, right click on NOTION SLE and choose Show Package Info. Then go to Contents/MacOS and copy the Notion Device.bundle file. Then paste this file in [main HD]Library/Application Support/PropellerHead Software/ReWire

    Restart both apps and this should fix it.

    Lubo Astinov


  • Hi Patrick,

    The Appassionata patches are not the full set (basically a 'bonus' content) and if I remember correctly they only had the sustain and staccato samples. This is why they don't have a dedicated preset.

    However, if you would like to use the staccato's and sustains from the Appassionata, you could simply open up the VI interface and drag them over the existing sustain and staccato assignments in the matrix.

    Hope that helps!

    Lubo Astinov


  •  Hi Lubo - Thanks.

    What type of Notion SLE articualtion or marking would I use to trigger these?

    Patrick  


  • Patrick,

    It would be just normale (the regular main sound) and staccatto.Since you will be substituting patches there is no special articulation mapping involved. Here's how to do it.

    1. Start a score and enter the Violins I preset from score setup.

    2. Exit score setup and click on the Violins staff. Hit Ctrl+I or Cmd+I(Mac)

    3. In the Vienna Instrument instance that pops up, click on matrix assign

    4. Drag over the appassionata sustain or staccato to any existing sustain or staccato patches in the matrix

    That should do it.

    Lubo Astinov


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    @Jonathan Price said:

    Hi Lubo

    I am trying to get Notion SLE to act as a rewire slave to Logic 8. I have enabled rewire in the preferences. I made sure that I opened Logic first.

    I then tried to create a new aux strip, but when i choose an input, Notion SLE isn't there as rewire option. Can you help please?

    Jonathan

    Hi Jonathan,

    Sometimes some permissions issues have prevented the NOTION rewire bundle being copied. This may be the cause for the problem.

    Try this for a solution: Go to Applications, right click on NOTION SLE and choose Show Package Info. Then go to Contents/MacOS and copy the Notion Device.bundle file. Then paste this file in [main HD]Library/Application Support/PropellerHead Software/ReWire

    Restart both apps and this should fix it.

    Lubo Astinov

     

     Hi Lubo,

    Since I still have a similar problem rewiring to Nuendo I wonder if there would be a similar solution.

    Thanks.

    Paco Monge


  •  Hi Lobo - Don't I then loose the use of the Violin 1 sustain and staccato?

    Patrick


  • Lubo,

    About Double bass...

    VSL doublebass normally go down to B0...

    In N3 presets the B0 is not playing !
    I suppose that is because N3 use the B0 as Keyswitch in H-Span to trigger 12A,B,C  ?

    If yes,

    it is sad do not having that precious Double bass B0 sound !

    Around the world for years now all double bass player are tuning their instrument on B, E, A, D, G...

    Sincerely N3

    Alain LeBlond


  • Hi Lubo. I had taken some of my existing scores and switched the sounds to VSL from N3. It was a problem but after a restart it's better. What can I do to make it not take so long? With N3 it was faster. Thanks. Tony

  • Hello Alain!

    You are right. Our doublebasses go down to B0 and the keyswitches for the Notion presets go up to B0. This way the B0 samples are not playable. The only way to play the B0 samples I see at the moment, is editing the doublebass preset, so that the matrix is only 11 cells wide. This way you have to go without two articulations. The combined sustain/legato patch and the sul ponticello-tremolo patch.

    Best,
    Andi


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    @Migot said:

    Lubo,

    About Double bass...

    VSL doublebass normally go down to B0...

    In N3 presets the B0 is not playing !
    I suppose that is because N3 use the B0 as Keyswitch in H-Span to trigger 12A,B,C  ?

    If yes,

    it is sad do not having that precious Double bass B0 sound !

    Around the world for years now all double bass player are tuning their instrument on B, E, A, D, G...

    Sincerely N3

    Alain LeBlond

    Yes, this is indeed the case. For now you can use the workaround that Andi is suggesting below, but rest assured we'll find a way to fix it in future versions so that the note will play back for you.

    Thanks

    Lubo Astinov


  • Hi Anthony,

    If your score is completed, and you wont do any more work on it, you could always use the VSL optimize function, to reduce teh RAM load and thus shorten loading times.If you are still working on the score though, I'm afraid there isn't much I can suggest. Loading a lot of instruments will have to load a large portion of samplesinto RAM and thus it will take some time.

    What I would do is probably use custom Vienna Ensemble PRO presets and retain the instance. That way I could load it once for that day/session and not have to worry about it. It does take a bit more work, but we do have an excellent tutorial on how to setup a custom VE PRO on the notion site.

    Hope that helps!

    Lubo Astinov


  • Andi, Lubo,

    Thanks very much for help and your kind words...

    Sincerely N3 & VSL

    Alain


  • Hi!

    I've been owning VSL SE for a couple of years but only now that I've discovered NOTION I'm really really starting to enjoy the many articulation and the quality of the library. Finnally I can really use my samples without using the annoying key switching and the scores look very good too.

    Just one question to the NOTION people: when I start a new legato phrase with the solo strings the first note is usually quite harsh. I've tried with the soft attack articulation but then I get the opposite result of a "too soft" a note. Is there a way to introduce the phrase "delicately"?

    Best,

    Cesare