Herb/Jay,

Herb mentioned briefly a little of the workflow for this piece... Can Jay elaborate on the workflow, Computer specs etc?

How many instruments at once for example....

Richard

Thanks Herb, Dietz, Florian and everyone at VSL for making such a revolutionary new way to mix samples.

For the strings I mostly used Appassionata strings mixed to varying degrees with solo strings. Occasionally, I also used the Orchestral strings to add some "blur" to fast runs or to fill in articulations that are missing from Appassionata strings.

The ensemble horns were Epic horns layered with the Triple horn. The solo horn was the Triple horn.

The trumpets were (again in varying amounts) solo trumpet in Bb, solo trumpet in C, fanfare trumpets and trumpet ensemble (x3).

One of my favorite MIR features is the character preset.   Each VSL instrument now has around six very useful and different sound-shaping EQ-like presets from "Airy" to "Biting" to "Distant" to "Powerful." These are very helpful for an EQ-phobic person like myself.  The Austin Powers movies have Mini-Me, the MIR software comes with your very own virtual mixing engineer -- Mini-Dietz!

Best wishes,

Jay

Jay,

Thanks for taking the time to give some details about the piece. You are truly an asset to this community.

Richard

@JBacal said:

One of my favorite MIR features is the character preset.   Each VSL instrument now has around six very useful and different sound-shaping EQ-like presets from "Airy" to "Biting" to "Distant" to "Powerful." These are very helpful for an EQ-phobic person like myself.  The Austin Powers movies have Mini-Me, the MIR software comes with your very own virtual mixing engineer -- Mini-Dietz!

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If you have MIR do you still benefit from Vienna Suite or do these presets in MIR that Jay describe "replace" them?

-Richard

Well I'm sold! :) I cant aford it now but i want it.

Great work all.

@rixtrepictures_162 said:

If you have MIR do you still benefit from Vienna Suite or do these presets in MIR that Jay describe "replace" them?

-Richard

Technically, they don't interfere with each other at all. The Vienna Suite consists of VST plugins which Vienna MIR will happily host.

Soundwise it might be adviseable to  to decide to either use MIR "Character Presets"for a quick change of an Instrument's timbre _or_ to insert Vienna Suite EQ for more detailed processing, though - but nothing will hinder you from using both. MIR's "Character Presets" and Vienna Suite's EQ-Presets are not the same, I created completely new settings for MIR - for more or less each and every instrument VSL offers.

HTH,

Thanks Dietz, Appreciate your time.

mir doesn't really sound any better or difrent than altiverb  

great job though as alays, jay.  you're the best

If you'd like I can remix in altiverb to compare/contrast.  

Honestly I thought there was a bit too much stereo seperation and not enough sense of varying distances. woodwinds seem too far, percussion in some cases too close (particularly piatti and other high metalic perc)

very subjective of course. 

Please guys, stop writing about MIR !! [H] I have it but I can't use it .. we're moving the studio so I'll wait for a mega computer .. it's like to have a Ferrari and waiting for the keys to try it !! [au]

@magates said:

Honestly I thought there was a bit too much stereo seperation and not enough sense of varying distances. woodwinds seem too far, percussion in some cases too close (particularly piatti and other high metalic perc)

very subjective of course. 

But nit-picking aside: Neither width nor distance is written into stone within MIR. If you would like to hear it differently - just go for it! This is "sampled reverb", not "reverb in a sample" (if you get my drift 😉 ...). I don't understand why you treat Jay's wonderful version of "Adventures" as it would be the only way to play it with MIR. - You said it yourself: It's all very subjective. The real beauty of MIR is that it is all about _your_ subjectivity.

Kind regards,

Yes i remember that. I remember cause I've chosen this piece as a reference for my speaker positioning a while back. It was very confusing. hehe!

yeah most of my samples, even my giga format VSL samples, would be "foreign" I never jumped on board the VI bandwagon and now of course it's too late unless I win the lottery.

Heya Jay,

You did an awesome work on it. I wonder if you could post the diferent files (if logic or cubase etc)? I know its a bit like ask a magician his trick but i think it would be good for try with MIR and also for see the diferent pluging you could have use like vienna suite or others and ho you used them. I i will use myself as an exemple, i am not an technician and use the diferent plugins is not that easy and can see how they are used in a piece like that would make learn a lot i think.

Thanks for make that great job it show us the great things we can do with VSL ^.^

Gilles

Heya Dietz, 

I know i have dowload it :P but i was more talking about the others plugins and diferent VSL stuff he used. Or did he only use MIR as plugins and nothing else? 

Thanks ^.^ Gilles

I only used MIR-- but within MIR itself I used a few instances of Vienna Suite plugins.   Also on the final output of my sequencer I used one instance of the Vienna Suite Multiband Compressor with Dietz's preset  "Impress your client"   That's it.

So with the MIR project files and midi file you should be able to reproduce the same performance and sound.  

Speaking of the performance,  I decided to completely redo the tempos of the Adventures on Earth demo.   The new version should be up in a few days.

Best,

Jay

Heya Jay,

Thanks a lot for have take the time to answer and can't wait to listen with the new tempo ^.^

Hilles

I have had this piece running through my head for the last week as a result of this.  Unlike a sappy pop song, it is wonderful to have something like this stuck in your head.  It reminds me of how great a composer John Williams is.  I love the way this music outlines in melody the chromatically shifting harmony so vividly, and the way he put into the melodies the "soaring" quality by having huge leaps everywhere.  What an awesome piece of music, and it fits the film flawlessly!