Response to Vienna Suite

[RainerL]

 I just want to give a response to Vienna Suite as a feedback for the VSL-Team.

just two aspects (about bugs and wishes there are other threads):

1. ergonomic handling and reasonable features make a very good impression to me.

2. the Presets of EQ and compressor for the VSL instruments are great! Especially the basic presets for Comp and the resonance presets for EQ are very usefull and save a lot of time. If it would not be necessary to make panorama and level settings one could mix without ears. Please give us complete presets for all instruments as soon as possible!

All the best, Rainer

[Dietz]

Thanks for the friendly feedback, Rainer. Always highly appreciated! :-)

We will release new Presets in the near future (during the next two months or so), but _please_ understand that I really doubt the usefulness of Presets for PowerPan (... but you aren't really asking for them, are you?). - As a matter of fact, I doubt the "mixing by presets"-idea in general, but that's a different story. For me, the settings I do for the Vienna Suite are meant to be used as starting points for own creations, not as the "one and only proper solution". ;-)

All the best,

[RainerL]

 Hi Dietz!

Indeed I didn´t ask for powerpan-presets. ;-) 

Normally (in case of recording natural instruments) I also would decline presets for any effect-plugin, but in this special situation of working with Vienna Instruments we have always the same instruments with the same sound, the same resonance frequencies and so on.... So the presets for EQ and compressor are superb for people without time (like me) or without acoustically optimized room (like me) or for people who are better in composing than audio engineering (like me). ;-)

all the best, Rainer

[Tom23]

 I'll add another cost-- time.  Since I got Vienna Suite (which is great), I've wanted to go back and add it to my finished pieces.  Presets speed this up a lot.  Granted, as I get more familiar with it, I'll have my own.  All Best, Tom

[Rob Elliott]

Each piece/cue is different - but these presets are so helpful.  I have tweaked them in 90% of cases (material dependent) BUT not by much.  Dietz - your working hard to find the resonance fregs for us has been very helpful.   Please finish the library asap.

Again the Sordino strings (AP) are to die for!!

Thanks again.

[PaulR]

Doe anyone use panning in the sequencer too - or just the power panner alone now?

[Dietz]

If you ask me: As soon as you use the Power Pan, leave the "ordinary" panpots untouched, set to hard left/right (or center, depending on the host you use).

HTH,

[Rob Elliott]

Dietz - could you go into this a bit more.   I LOVE VS but haven't seen the benefit of Power pan over what I can do now in Cubase (collaspe the stereo - varying degrees and move it left or right.   Is there a 'sonic' benefit that I am missing here?

All the best,

Rob

[PaulR]

@Dietz said:

If you ask me: As soon as you use the Power Pan, leave the "ordinary" panpots untouched, set to hard left/right (or center, depending on the host you use).HTH,

Yes thanks for that Dietz - I was hoping that was the case. In Logic, the panning is more or less next to useless as it's merely a facsimile of what power panning does. I guess Cubase is different panning to Logic.

[Dietz]

@Rob Elliott said:

Dietz - could you go into this a bit more.   I LOVE VS but haven't seen the benefit of Power pan over what I can do now in Cubase (collaspe the stereo - varying degrees and move it left or right.   Is there a 'sonic' benefit that I am missing here?

All the best,

Rob

The only "sonic" benefit would be that you are able to actually _lower_ one channel of a stereo-signal in volume, either before or after the actual panning. This can be helpful, as well as the option to switch one channel's polarity independently from the other one.

Other than that, a Cubase/Nuendo-user just gets nicer graphics from the Vienna Suite's PowerPan, plus the option for saving his/her own settings. 😉

... in case of Logic, the need for PowerPan is evident, though.

[steff3]

another aspect is PowerPan before inserts or sends (at least pre-fader sends but I think also post fader sends) - which is very useful ... best

[Dietz]

@steff3 said:

another aspect is PowerPan before inserts or sends (at least pre-fader sends but I think also post fader sends) - which is very useful ...

best

Yes, of course. Thanks for the addition!

[kleinholgi]

I think it might be a wise idea to offer the plug ins of the Suite seperately. Since many VSL cutomers will already own a lot of compressor and/or EQ Plug ins for them it will be much more interesting, if they would be able to choose only the tools they want to have. Greetz kh

[aural]

@kleinholgi said:

I think it might be a wise idea to offer the plug ins of the Suite seperately. Since many VSL cutomers will already own a lot of compressor and/or EQ Plug ins for them it will be much more interesting, if they would be able to choose only the tools they want to have. Greetz kh

+1 Vienna Suite really has great tools, but for my part, practically the only plugin I would use is the EQ because of the resonance-presets... so for me 450 € just for one plugin that I would use is a little much...

[Tripit]

@kleinholgi said:

I think it might be a wise idea to offer the plug ins of the Suite separately. Since many VSL cutomers will already own a lot of compressor and/or EQ Plug ins for them it will be much more interesting, if they would be able to choose only the tools they want to have. Greetz kh

+1  I'm already heavily invested in world class eq's, compressors and verbs. I can't justify spending 500+ dollars on VE. I like some things in the VE, but I would only occasionally use the eq, and maybe the power pan. It would be much better to be able to buy them one at a time, as you can with most developers plugs of this type.  The money we save can be used in buying more VSL libraries!